Joodse Genealogieen - Jewish Genealogies

misschien kun je er het team van dit project blij mee maken:
http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-Israel

Fred Bergman , Private User Thank You for your helpful links. They are now added to the "External Links" on the Jewish Ancestry Guide Project - http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Ancestry-Research-Guide

zullen we ze die andre dan ook maar tonen, fred?

Malka Mysels. we forgot one : http://www.maxvandam.info/index.html

but maybe you are so kind to translate that hebrew for others than israelian descendants who happen to have jewish ancestry too?

Private User Geni-Israel is a ( Portal) created in Israel like "Portaal voor Nederlandstaligen".

The http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Ancestry-Research-Guide is specifically for Jewish Genealogy. Thank you for your Dutch links.

Fred Bergman , Private User You might find this link of interest too. http://www.dutchjewry.org/default.html.

http://www.jewishgen.org/

Fred Bergman The distinguished and fascinating history of Dutch Jewry certainly requires a project. By the way, is Amsterdam really sometimes referred to as "Mokum" in Dutch?

Mokum,"the place" was first used by Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe in the 17th century. Amsterdam was called Big Mokum, as opposed to Litte Mokum, which referred to Rotterdam :)

1. http://www.planeteyetraveler.com/2010/01/02/mokum-amsterdams-jewish...

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokum

I'm born and grown up in Amsterdam and in Amsterdam slang many jewish words exists, because a big part of the citizens were jewish.
Mokum is slang for Amsterdam, every Amsterdammer speaks about Mokum as an usual word!

In 's-Hertogenbosch there is still the building of the Synagoge, but now its used for music --de Toonzaal aan de Bernardstraat-- and all the religious attributes are moved to Eindhoven. I wished to make a book about the history of the Jewish society in our city for here -to my opinion- there is a lot of emphasize on the catholic part of the town, for we have a beautiful famous church in town --de Sint Jans Kathedraal aan de Parade--. Before the synagoge was restored as a monument and installed as public domain there were not enough jewish people left to build up a religious community. I myself aren't jewish ---ofcourse in my tree there are jewish partners and historical influences too, like every Dutch of my generation--- but raised liberal protestant and visited Gymnasium Haganum in 's-Gravenhage were a lot of the jewish students had traces of what their parents had suffered during the period 1940-45. For my consultancy I did once a communication-project for CENTRUM 45, still a international centre with a lot of experience to help people with war-traumae, even in the third generations. I am working on a project -step-by-step- with my dear African friend Helene to make it possible to introduce these kind of experiences in the midst of Africa where the war didn't last only 5 years like in Holland, but is still going on during decades.
Some sort of a conclusion: In our country we have a lot of knowledge about jewish history and in a lot of families there are traces of their suffering. And every Dutch still knows the word MOKUM i hope.

URL's about the things I spoke about:
* http://www.centrum45.nl/
* http://www.bossche-encyclopedie.nl/overig/kerken/synagoge.htm
* http://www.reliwiki.nl/index.php?title=%2Cs-Hertogenbosch%2C_Prins_...
* http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sint-Janskathedraal_('s-Hertogenbo...

Er is ook een Nederlands parenteel van de Limoen(en)man-Citroen-Lehman familie:

http://www.joodsamsterdam.nl/citroen.htm

A few days ago, I also passed on to Ray van Kay the following link, which has a book on the genealogy of the Ephraim family in the Betuwe - which traces the Ephraims til the mid 17th century. In addition, the book has general chapters on jewish migrations from Spain/Portugal to the Low Countries around 1600.
http://diglib.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/FH11&CISO...

If we are allowed to write here in English:

As Fred knows, the Citroen project is at http://www.geni.com/projects/Citron-Czitron-Czitrom-Citrom-Citroen-...

I also added some date data to some jMu profiles from http://www.joodsamsterdam.nl/citroen.htm

eg Lena Citroen

There is a lot more that can be added to Geni in that area from that webpage.

http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Ancestry-Research-Guide is an umbrella resource guide in English, and includes Dutch Jewry projects and references, but there is no specific Dutch language material on Geni.

I wonder whether there is scope for a Dutch language Dutch Jewry project or similar? Under this Portaal voor Nederlandstaligen.

maybe David, we are not used to put people in specific 'hokjes' of that type, so I think it's good to documentate surnames, but I am not really interested whether she or he is of jewish, muslim, catholic, liberal, social, european, jiddisch, etcetera. origine. Sometimes it's far more interesting to know to what kind of profession of what skills people were active and with wich other people they could have been in contact during their lives, f.i. by visiting a specific school or university or being raised by people with totally other ideas of religion and filosophy. It's also in daily live and education that you get a personal way of looking, acting & thinking about your environment, i think.

and by experience ofcourse...

Thanks Jeannette - I don't think the one precludes the other. People often embark on genealogical research because they know their ancestor had particular identifying features from a particular place, and then get interested in more. Those original features may be religion or profession or something else.

Private User thanks in advance!

Alexander David Levin This is my cousin's husband, from Amsterdam. They perished in the Holocaust with their 9 year old son. I don't know if his family had been in the Netherlands for long or had moved there in the 20th century. My cousin and her child were citizens of Palestine, but were murdered before her family could save them.

Is this your cousin's husband, Hatte?

Alex Levin
Den Haag, 30 januari 1901 – Auschwitz, 18 januari 1943

Hatte Blejer (absent until Nov 1)

Debora Levin-Kalvarisky
Sedpera, 1 november 1900 – Auschwitz, 18 januari 1943

Dan Levy Levin
Jeruzalem, 20 november 1934 – Auschwitz, 18 januari 1943

http://www.communityjoodsmonument.nl/search/93?q_kind[0]=person&amp...

Fred Bergman , Private User
This fascinating discussion has inspired a Mokum project,
ie.
http://www.geni.com/projects/Mokum-Wondrous-Jewish-Amsterdam.

Anne Frank and Baruch Spinoza are just two well known Jewish residents of Amsterdam.

... and Citroën's ancestors, of course :-)

Actually, the Citroën name is REALLY interesting. I mean, Citroen really means lemon in Dutch. A lot of Dutch people always laugh about the car's brand. I bet that only very very very few people would have guessed that the name is an adaptation of Limoenman. I really learned something!

I reckon the origin of the saying that someone "bought a lemon" (meaning a below quality product) is someone who paid a high price for an etrog and found they had literally been sold a lemon instead.

knollen voor citroenen verkopen is the dutch saying, contrair, citrons should be better than potatoes

Fred Bergman - Thanks, those are my family. I found Devora in the Yad veShem testimony and I think also her son. They fled Amsterdam and went underground in Belgium, but were caught and deported.

Citron is "etrog" no? My girlfriend collects all the etrogs at Sukkot and makes candied etrog.