William Wilson - William Wilson has the wrong wife.

Are the correct Geni profiles tagged?

Rev. Dr. William Wilson matches Wikitree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wilson-445

Rev. John Wilson matches https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wilson-667

Yes.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wilson-667 and Rev. John Wilson Match.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wilson-445 and Rev. Dr. William Wilson Match.

Is there a match for https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mansfield-30

Her Eures lead to the baron: https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Mansfield-Family-Tree-30

Geni wife of Dr John is married to him

Elizabeth Wilson

I see. Wikitree has her married to Reverend John. But the thing is she doesn't pop up in the tree I have for the whole family starting with this person:

https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000001661808482

On wikitree:

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Wilson-Family-Tree-2735

The trees aren't matching even though wikitree has evidence.

The problem is that Some parts of that tree needs to be reconnected to the right people.

I think you are saying that you have a line to Elizabeth Mansfield & Rev John Wilson on Wikitree & you don’t on Geni.

The error could be anywhere in the generations between you & them, on Wikitree or Geni or both.

Use the geni “how am I related” to step through your path on Geni & inspect the live profiles.

Yes I am. Sorry for the confusion. I think I see where the errors are.

Sarah's parents are the same on both trees.
The grandparents are different on her father's side.
The great grandparents are off, too.
Then the great, great grandparents almost match. Not quite, though. Not sure what the deal is but I have been assured Wikitree is accurate because of the sources presented.

I have a direct link to Sarah to begin with. Things before her seem a little weird. Here's my link to Sarah: https://www.geni.com/path/Chris-Ferraiolo+is+related+to+Sarah-Snow?...

I have the same path on wikitree up to her. It's just here that things got a little jumbled and needs to be fixed. People aren't where they should be.

You need to tag Geni profiles for me to take a look, otherwise I get lost.

There was a mixup of Sir John Sir John Mansfield but I don’t think that affected the path

I’m not sure which John married Mary Mansfield if Gerene May Jensen Mason could help on that one

Profiles can be accurate in their bios but connected wrongly - happens to All trees.

Sarah Snow is of Woburn. So are her Geni parents. What town are her Wikitree parents ?

Hannah Fuller note to try & fix her - I’ll work on that. But wouldn’t affect the path

That's the thing. I can't find the geni profiles. =(

Sarah Snow on wikitree is of Woburn, too. Her wikitree parents are from England (father) and Woburn).

I'll see if I can find the Geni links. Who do you need on Geni?

This lady Elizabeth Wilson should be the wife of Sir William Wilson, II not Patience Wilson.

And it looks like that William Wilson has a merge with the Wilson attached to Elizabeth.

Here's Patience: Patience Wilson She isn't listed as a wife in the Puritan Great Migration book.

From there things seem similar. But, you'd have to compare side by side. According to wikitree, the great great grandparents of William Wilson, I are different and he's married to Isabel Collins.

One gen at a time, please. First step is vital records of Woburn to confirm parents of Sarah (Wilson) Snow.

Right. Got a little carried away. Here are some of Sarah's sources from wikitree:

http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89066291154;view=1up;seq=11

https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.a...

https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.a...+

This is a real genealogist summary with his sources

mhollick.typepad.com/slovakyankee/2015/07/john-wilson-ca-1626-1687-of-woburn-massachusetts.html

Do they match what's in Wikitree?

Do you have the records confirming Sarah Wilson's parents in her profile?

This profile is the father of Sarah Wilson Snow

John Wilson, Sr., of Woburn

So far I do not see parents for him.

1. John Wilson was born about 1626 and died 2 July 1687 at Woburn, Massachusetts. He married before 1651, Hannah James, born say 1630 and died about 1698 at Woburn, Massachusetts. She married secondly, Thomas Fuller of Salem, Massachusetts. The notion that John was the son of a Roger Wilson is a fabrication. John and Hannah had ten children: John, Sarah, Dorcas, Samuel, Francis, James, Abigail, Elizabeth, Benjamin, and Hannah.

That matches! The dates are a little off on both. But, I see Sarah there.

The Wilsons have been confirmed as a line that goes to a Magna carta signer. This confirms it:

The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. vol. 155 no. 1 (January, 2001): 3-35. The Ancestry of the Royally-Descended Mansfields of the Massachusetts Bay, by Robert Charles Anderson, F.A.S.G., John C. Brandon, and Paul C. Reed, F.A.S.G. AmericanAncestors ($) LINK
Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, in 5 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2013): vol. II page 530.

There's also a book about the Magna Carta signers and the descendants. The parents info can be found here:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wilson-1990

There are sources there. Don't have time to get into details.

The trick is to google Geni Sarah Wilson 1650 Samuel Snow, shell come right up.

The link I posted http://mhollick.typepad.com/slovakyankee/2015/07/john-wilson-ca-162...

Is the 2015 work of Martin Halleck, a NEHGS genealogist.

If he doesn't have parents for this John Wilson, they are not known to a confidence he is willing to publish.

This John Wilson of Woburn has been confused with other John Wilson's arriving to New England.

The next entry on Halleck's blog, for instance, is

http://mhollick.typepad.com/slovakyankee/2015/07/john-wilson-1588-1...

"The Rev. John Wilson was the first minister in Boston and easily the second most famous colonial person from whom I descend.  But unlike other genealogists who uniformly laud their ancestors, I don't particularly like the Rev. John Wilson.  ..."

He is the one with proven royal ancestry.

You will notice the same death year as the farmer John Wilson of Woburn.

There was also a Capt. John Wilson of Swansea.

None of the above were the father of Sarah (Wilson) Snow.

Right. Sorry I ran off like that. Heh. Was called away.

What about these sources:

The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. vol. 155 no. 1 (January, 2001): 3-35. The Ancestry of the Royally-Descended Mansfields of the Massachusetts Bay, by Robert Charles Anderson, F.A.S.G., John C. Brandon, and Paul C. Reed, F.A.S.G. AmericanAncestors ($) LINK
Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, in 5 vols. (Salt Lake City, Utah, 2013): vol. II page 530.

There is also this book:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA1-PA130

That outlines the Magna Carta history for the Eure family. And others.

John Mansfield (MP) has been proven to be the father of Elizabeth who was the wife of John Wilson (1588-1667)

His son John married Hannah James and had Sarah as one of the kids.

You are looking at the wrong John Wilson so sources are meaningless in this context.

The Wikitree profile for John Wilson who married Hannah James and were the parents of Sarah who married Samuel Snow is attached to the wrong parents.

See https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000075054944979&

The marriage deed is at the Woburn library apparently.

It is this Rev. John Wilson who married Sarah Wilson who is the son of Elizabeth Wilson & Rev. John Wilson

Their daughter Sarah Torrey

Okay. I am going to make a thread on wikitree advising them that I am going to fix all of the things.

Sarah Snow is still connected to me. That's what matters at this point. Just not sure what to tell the people over there.

Yes, I can help with this mix up. This can be confusing because there are lots of John Mansfields in this family line.

Below is the John Mansfield who married Mary Hobson and Elizabeth unknown. He is the son of Lancelot Mansfield, Esquire, of Skirpenbeck and Anne Eure. Please let me know if you have any further questions.

John Mansfield, Esq.; MP

Here is a source form Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, 2nd Edition,

Link https://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=RA1-PA17&...

And that's the guy Wikitree has confused with someone else. Oy....

Thanks, Gerene May Jensen Mason

Gerene May Jensen Mason

Can you check dates ?

Wife Elizabeth (2nd wife ?) seems off ...

Parents: Lancelot Mansfield, Esquire, of Skirpenbeck (1533 - 1579) & Anne (Eure) Mansfield (1540 - 1566)

Wife: Mary (Hobson) Mansfield (1553 - 1588)
Wife: Elizabeth (NN) Mansfield (1570 - 1634)

Who is the curator? And why is this Master Profile not locked after all the hard work that has been done? I am in awe of the passion and dedication and professionalism I see in the discussion and hope that all the current connections are still correct... I am another descendant. I only recently added/ was added to this line. Please double check Related merges? Thank you 🙏