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Landnámabók & eyrbyggjasaga

Can you quote the sections for them?

Hang on: Found one

"31. kafli Auðun átti Mýrúnu, dóttur Maddaðar Írakonungs." Landnámabók
https://www.snerpa.is/net/snorri/landnama.htm

Chapter 31 Auðun married Mýrúna, daughter of Maddad the King of Ireland.

No Margaret in Landnámabók

or in Eyrbyggja saga that I can find?

Douglas John Nimmo can you find it for us for your profile?

Are mýrúna an margrethe not the same person?

Mýrún Maddaðardóttir is said to have been been born in ( 870) the daughter of an Irish king.
She was married to Auðunn "stoti" Válason according to the book of settlements. That is not the same Mýrún/ Mýrúna as the one that was the daughter of Madach.

on her profile here on geni she is said to be the daughter of Bjaðmak (Beadh-mac ( Maddad)

Okay, so step by step:

1. On Geni, your profile for her [[Myrun Maddaðardóttur Bjadmakdotter Myrun Maddaðardóttur Bjadmakdotter] is definitely placed as the daughter of Madach, 1st Earl of Atholl not Bjaðmak (Beadh-mac ( Maddad). [[Bjadmak, King in Ireland Bjadmak, King in Ireland] So, this is the one we're looking at. (Although both seem - rather too coincidentally? - to have been married to an Audun, and both have a father whose name is Maddad - cf Myrun Maddaðardóttur Bjadmakdotter ]

2. Problem: The Earl of Atholl is Scots, not Irish

3. Problem: The Irish don't seem to know about Bjadmak, King in Ireland or Beadh-mac as one of their kings / nobles. Is it a reference to Macbeth, King of Scots ?

4. Problem: Macbeth isn't Irish either, and his dates are way past 890

5 RE mýrúna and margrethe as same person. What evidence that the names are interchangeable? Caithness certainly isn't interchangeable with Atholl, and, again - neither are in Ireland.

I have corrected the profile of Myrun. .
who is born In 870 and according to the book of settlement is said to be the daughter of an Irish king named Maddad. She married Auðunn “stoti”

I do not where the source information on who this “ Beadh-mac (Maddad) (Bjadmak) king in Ireland” is supposed to be but I’ve contacted the manager of her profile for sources on that. I have removed the other Mýrún from maddach.

Okay, let me know how/where I can help.

Disconnecting the relationship to Margaret de Caithness pending the provision of sources to use to reconnect.

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Not relevant to this discussion. Jacqueli, you've posted this on 7 different Discussions. Please stick to one.

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