Jaakkimainen families from Talsinmäki village

Started by Annaliisa Abramova on Thursday, February 24, 2022
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Hi again!

I am 100% stuck on this particular Jaakkimainen family line who just appeared probably around 1917 in Talsinmäki village from Lviv (Possibly from Ukraine)? So Ingrian-Finns who for some reason were (born? Lived?) in Ukraine and came back to Ingria? Descendants of an Ingrian-Finn man who were requited to the Imperial Army and found themselves in Lviv?

I think these two Jaakkimainen families were brothers since what are the odds that both families coming from Lviv and being sons of Andrei/Andreas/Antti Jaakkimainen are son of from different Andreis who lived in Lviv? Yet in the churchbooks there is no mention of them being brothers.

Anders Jaakkimainen

So if any of you can figure out where to go from here to figure out where they came from. I would appreciate it.

Johann Anders-sohn Jaakkimainen from Lviv:
Johann Anderss. Jaakkimainen

Peter Anders-sohn Jaakkimainen from Lviv:
Peter Anderss. Jaakkimainen

Any ideas where to look for more sourches about them?

Talsinmäki village did have a Jaakkimainen family living in there before but the family name died out in it because there were no sons born in the family or the sons dided young. So for a couple of churchbooks there were no Jaakkimainens in that village.

Basically this Adam Aleksanterinpoika Jaakkimainen was the last male Jaakkimainen in Talsinmäki village from churchbooks nr 17:
Adam Aleksanderss. Jaakkimainen

And this Henrik Tobias-son Jaakkimainen is the only Jaakkimainen from the line of Talsinmäki village Jaakkimainens whose faith we don't know since he was recruited to the Imperial army and his father Tobias moved to Talsinmäki.
Henrik Tobiass. Jaakkimainen

So he might be the ancestor of the returned Jaakkimainens of the Talsinmäki village, if he ever married?

Any ideas and recomendations where to look for more info for the Lviv Jaakkimaines who came to live in Talsinmäki around the year 1917?

There's another possibility, which I think is more likely - it's a family name Lvov. See the abbreviations in the parenthesis after the names - он же Львов and б. (=бывший) Львов. How and why did they become Jaakkimainen? Perhaps it was their mother's maiden name or their stepfather's name? Or, perhaps they were adopted by someone named Jaakkimainen? There are many cases known where Russian children (usually illegitimate) were adopted to Finnish families. I believe they were both Russian Orthodox before converting to Lutheran in 1917, that's why they were not listed in earlier books.

Very interesting. A possibility I hadn't considered at all that Lvov might be a previous family name instead of a birthplace.

Coming back to an old post.

I'm trying to check out Saint Petersburgs Holy Maria's Lutherian churches churchbooks for the the reqruts/soldats (Pietarin Pyhän Marian seurakunnan arkisto rippikirja) but for some reason when I try the Finnish Archive page they will not load, it will just get stuck in the loading progress. https://astia.narc.fi/uusiastia/kortti_aineisto.html?id=1291660620

I can see that the Finnish archive does have those churchbooks. About a year ago they opened up just fine when I was researching a different family line of mine.

Is anyone else having the same problem of opening the churchbooks or is it just me?

I'm trying to see if I can find the military soldier churchbook entries for these two people:

Henrik Tobiass. Jaakkimainen
and
Simon Tobiass. Jaakkimainen

Hi, Finnish archive pages are not good. Try digihakemisto-pages to find church books from Astia service.

https://digihakemisto.net/

Two hours after I posted everything worked fine! Must have been some temporary nug that didn't let me view the documents!

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