Elizabeth Bethany Lott (Joyner) - Elizabeth vs. Bethany Joyner

Debbie Gambrell

7/11/2023 at 8:26 AM

I'm confused and need help with the issue of Bethany Joyner. I have them as separate people in my tree but I was contacted by someone on Ancestry today who has her husband's Lott line connections different from mine, so I was checking the connections on Geni and it hasn't helped.

In my tree, I have John Lott I of Tatnois Swamp

John Lott of Tatnois Swamp

married to Elizabeth Bethany Joyner:

Elizabeth Lott

because that's how they are on Geni.

I also have this John Lott I married to Bridgett Lott (Emilie, which is his wife that my line is from.

Then I have this Elizabeth Joyner in my tree married to a different John Lott.

unknown wife of John Lott

and I see she is tagged 'Bethany' as well, which is part of the confusion. It doesn't seem that this one was actually named Bethany but it has just been attached to her. ?

There are multiple John Lotts with wives named Elizabeth. I don't know that there actually was more than one who was really named Bethany. Any help sorting those names to make the lines easier to search would be appreciated because people are getting them mixed up in their trees.

Debbie Gambrell

7/11/2023 at 8:52 AM

The notes in this profile:

unknown wife of John Lott

indicate she was known as Delilah and farther down in the notes is listed as her name unknown. It 'seems' she has been tagged as Elizabeth 'Bethany' Joyner in spite of nothing in her profile notes indicating that was her name. ?

Erica Howton C

7/11/2023 at 2:43 PM

I don’t think she was Elizabeth Joyner & removed the name.

I would think this profile is actually “unknown first wife” because she has all the children attached.

Whether accurate or not I can’t say, but unless researched & updated otherwise, I believe we should follow notes in profile. There had been quite a lot of Lott work a few years ago, and this is from those efforts.

Name seen as Delilah, birth name unknown. Adding to https://www.geni.com/projects/Lott-Fayard-Indian-School-Project/52750

2. John Lott II (John1) was born abt 1722 probably at Isle of Wight County, Virginia (of Edgecombe County,33 North Carolina, later Duplin County, North Carolina and finally Georgia abt 1761) and died after 179534 at Montgomery, Tattnall, Georgia.35,36

He married abt 1739 at North Carolina (1)37,38 unknown, died before 1764 and (2) Bethany ____.

She was born 1724 and died 1795 at Georgia. There are various land records (patents, 1730-1750’s) in Edgecombe County and Duplin County for John and Elizabeth Lott.39 They made the move to St. George’s Parish, Georgia in the 1760’s.

John and the unknown Mrs. Lott had eight children.

Family

http://29deadpeople.com/wp/?page_id=1392

Children of John2 Lott and an unknown spouse were as follows:

+ 8. i. John3 Lott, born circa 1740 Edgecombe Co., NC; married Sallie (--?--).
+ 9. ii. Solomon Lott, born circa 1740 Edgecombe Co., NC; married Nancy Smith.
+ 10. iii. Arthur Lott, born between 1750 and 1752; married Sarah Ann (--?--).
+ 11. iv. William Lott, born circa 1755 NC; married Rebecca Harris.
12. v. DANIEL LOTT was born 1744 at Edgecombe County, North Carolina and died 1 Feb 1782 at St. George’s Parish, Burke, Georgia. He married abt 1764 Mildred Wells.4
+ 12. v. Absalom Lott, born circa 1758 NC; married Martha Jane (--?--).
+ 13. vi. Nathan Lott, born circa 1760 NC.
+ 14. vii. Joshua Lott, born circa 1760 NC .

Children of John2 Lott and Bethany Unknown were:

+ 15. i. Mary3 Lott, born circa 1775; married William Hatten (RS).

Erica Howton C

7/11/2023 at 2:45 PM

Not to mention my curator note was ignored.

Do not confuse with her mother in law, Elizabeth Joyner. They were not the same. The wife of John Lott ll is not known.

Debbie Gambrell

7/11/2023 at 2:54 PM

Yes, those are the notes I referenced from her profile, which seems to be the best info available on her. Thanks for sorting her out.

Susanne Floyd PRO

7/12/2023 at 7:51 PM

I was a "follower of unknown wife of John Lott" and both projects that I see listed. I concur with Erica Howton's notes. Thanks Debbie Gambrell for f inding the issue.

Sometimes I think I come on late at night and what I find are more errors of merges or so forth, but it is just amazing what the clean up efforts take in time.

Debbie Gambrell

7/12/2023 at 8:00 PM

Indeed, Susanne! In a perfect world, folks would check their connections and fix things as they go, clean up their own merges, put proper notes and sources when available, start discussions when they're uncertain or would like assistance, etc. I guess we can always dream! lol

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