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What is the evidence for John Lanning, Sr., of Newtown as son of John Lanyon & Anne Lanyon


I’m suggesting we use as a starting source:

“The Lanning Family of Newtown, Queens”

https://doczz.net/doc/4873974/the-lanning-family-of-newtown--queens

Which is a transcription of

THE LANNING FAMILY of Newtown, L.I., N.Y., And of Hunterdon Co., N.J. Lewis died Cook, F. A. S. G., of Philadelphia

What is the evidence Elizabeth Lanning Was the daughter of Henry Tayler & Catherine


From THE LANNING FAMILY of Newtown, L.I., N.Y., And of Hunterdon Co., N.J. Lewis died Cook, F. A. S. G., of Philadelphia

JOHN LANNING is found in the records of Newtown, which fronted on the East River, in Queens County, L.I., opposite Manhattan Island, in the following items of 1681 and 1682, his surname spelled phonetically by the town clerk as "Lennen". He was deceased by 1683, in which year the name of "the widow Lanning" appears in the town minutes. She was evidently the Elizabeth Laning of Newtown who conveyed to "my two sons Robert Laning and Richard Laning, after my decease" her house and ten acre lot in Newton by deed of gift dated 16 April 1688. Those two sons removed to Maidenhead Township, Burlington County, NJ by 1699, as hereinafter is shown. The 1698 Census of Newtown lists no Laning. (TAG 24: 133).”

The known children of Elizabeth & John Lanning were:

2. i. Robert Laning, Sr., born in or before 1667; died after 1752. (Robert Lanning, Sr.)
3. ii. Richard Laning born in or before 1670; died after 1742. (Richard Lanning)
3-a. iii. John Laning born in or before 1675; died in 1733 - 1739. (John Lanning, Jr.)

Detaching as children of Elizabeth & John Lanning:

David M.V. Lanning

Rebecca Lanyon Trenwith

If evidence is presented, they can be re attached.

Annber Lynn Collins - does this help?

Joseph Lanning seen with various wives in MyHeritage trees, wife is more varied.

Example

Joseph Lanning
Birth 1745 - Lebanon, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States
Death Mar 15 1814 - Lebanon, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States
Parents Isaac Lanning, Aaltje "sarah Elsie" Lanning (born Hunt

Yes. I saw your message and thank you. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner as I sprained my ankle.

Goodness! What a great excuse to do computer genealogy!

Joseph Lanning was not the son of Isaac Lanning, of Hardwick & Sarah ‘Aaltje’ Lanning


Perry Streeter

I see you recently updated the equivalent profile to Sybil Lanning at https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/2SDK-6PH, so I presume you’re working on this family.

A couple of questions, if you can.

Any insight into where Joseph Lanning might fit in the Lanning tree?

Should we be detaching Elizabeth Lanning from origins seen?

These links are for me,messed up Wyckoff line and Lanning,connected down the line.

https://www.seekingmyroots.com/members/files/G007533.pdf

https://archive.org/stream/wyckofffamilyina00wyck_0/wyckofffamilyin...

Work from point:

Nicholas ‘Claes’ Pieterszen Wyckoff

Clean up Pittenger, Campbell,Lanning and Cady dead ends.

Clean up,New Jersey Lanning and Wyckoff lines,marriage to my and othe Pittenger and adjacent lines.

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/545464-the-...

Richard Pittenger

Clean up and investigation:

Common link,Joseph Cloud,my line, connections to Kerling/Kerlin line through Mary the daughter a cousin through this line.

Joseph Cloud

https://www.geni.com/path/Annber-Collins+is+related+to+Joseph-Cloud...

Mary Fleming

Mary Fleming?through=6000000000551132766

Investigate

Ann Nancy Lanning

https://www.geni.com/path/Annber-Collins+is+related+to+Ann-Lanning?...

John Lanning, Sr.

https://www.geni.com/path/Annber-Collins+is+related+to+John-Lanning...

Notes: Father showing online to be Matthis-Kerlin or Peter, same family lines. But showing my line of Lanning could go to this line of Matgen. Who is the father and mother? Oral family history, black German, could this be another line?

Metgen Kerlin

Bishop line relationship through Ann and Kerling family. Cloud family relationships to me. Curtis family to Faubus and varied spellings. Lots of dead ends and severely wrong Genealogy.

I found this person on FamilySearch:

Joseph Bishop Jr

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/27JV-DBQ

Ann Way

https://www.geni.com/path/Annber-Collins+is+related+to+Ann-Way?from...

Joseph Bishop

Penn family connections with Kerling

https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/digitalbks2/id...
William Penn and the Dutch Quaker migration to Pennsylvania

William Penn, Founder of Pennsylvania

Rachel Enslaved by Penn Family

Sarah Penn

Erica Howton

Sorry for the delayed response. After challenging assumptions by which the Lanning family has been constructed, I have disconnected my earliest confirmed Lanning ancestor from the immigrant ancestor previously claimed, John-1 Lanning. Others should probably do the same :(

Here is my now-pruned Lanning ancestry in the Family Tree:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K83Q-K2H

From the Brief Life History:

ALERT! Richard Lanning (1730–1786): End-of-Line Ancestor!

ALERT! NOT a child of Richard and Sybil (Rose) Lanning!

From William C. Armstrong, Pioneer Families of Northwestern New Jersey, p. 225:

"Richard Lanning, a teacher, married Sybil Rose, sister of Stephen Rose. They had seven [sic, eight] children: David (a guide to Gen. Washington at the Battle of Trenton), married Mary Palmer, 1764-1862, daughter of Philip Palmer, Phoebe, blind, unmarried; Zenas married Rachel Garretson; Hannah (Mrs. Joseph Green); Rachel (Mrs. Joseph Knowles); Sarah (Mrs. Ralph Hart); Rhoda (Mrs. O'Neil) of Washington, D.C."

https://books.google.com/books?id=TfAXaYYUAecC

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Robert Lanning of Sussex County, New Jersey and Guernsey County, Ohio (1757-1841) was reportedly the husband of Sarah Miller (1757- ) and the son of Richard and Julia Ann (Miller) Lanning who married 4 November 1751. No original documents have been found to verify the identities of Robert’s wife and parents. Some of Robert’s descendants thought that his father was an English immigrant but one author implied that Robert descended from an Irish immigrant. Any help in confirming or refuting either possibility will be greatly appreciated.

=== Q. Was Robert Lanning’s father an English immigrant? ===

Below is a verbatim excerpt from Biographical and Historical Record of Jay and Blackford Counties, Indiana (Chicago: The Lewis Publishing Company, 1887), page 799:

Robert Lanning, general merchant, Millgrove, was born in Sussex County, New Jersey, January 15, 1820, a son of Isaac and Lydia (Fuller) Lanning, who were also natives of Sussex County, New Jersey, both dying in Guernsey County, Ohio. The father was eleven years older than his wife, and his death occurred eleven years before she died, her death occurring in 1884.

Our subject's grandfather, Robert Lanning, was born in New Jersey, and died in Guernsey County, Ohio, aged eighty-four years. His father was an Englishman by birth, and on coming to America, settled in New Jersey. …

Below is a verbatim excerpt from Biographical Memoirs of Blackford County, Ind. (Chicago: The Bowen Publishing Company, 1900), page 615:

Moses W. Lanning, of Mill Grove… born March 26, 1850… His father, Robert Lanning [sic, Isaac Lanning], was a native of Sussex county, New Jersey, being born there January 15, 1820, and was married to Lydia Fuller, also a native of that county. Both them died in Guernsey county, Ohio, he in 1873, and she in 1884. He was a son of Robert Lanning, who was born in New Jersey and died and Guernsey county, Ohio, at the age of eighty-four. The father of the latter, Robert Lanning, was an Englishman, but little appears to now remembered of his life.

=== Q. Did Robert Lanning descend from an Irish immigrant? ===

William Clinton Armstrong’s Pioneer Families of Northwestern New Jersey evolved from “a series of weekly articles which appeared in the Hackettstown Gazette beginning with the issue of February 16, 1934. There were ninety-four installments." Below is a verbatim excerpt from page 36:

The Lannings who settled at Chester, Trenton and Burlington [New Jersey] were Welsh. But there are in the United States many Lannings who are of entirely different stock… English Lannings… Dutch Lannings… There are Irish Lannings, for instance, Isaac Lanning who was born in Ireland in 1750 and has descendants living in Guernsey County, Ohio.

Hi,
So John Lanning is my ninth, great grandfather. So how do i fix this line.

Hi Debra LeAnn McAlister

Post the Geni profile link to your Lanning ancestor that needs fixing. Not all of them do!

@Erica

Now that I added,merged into existing profiles and edited a few things fo Abigail Smith ,I'll look at the Miller and Stoddard Genealogy, as they're also dead end lines leading into other Lanning dead ends,but not my line of Joseph. Maybe more answers are somewhere in those Genealogy books... Some of the siblings in Stoddard Cady line needed added ad expanded, that could lead to marriage between the lines. Now that it is disconnected it looks like this Richard Lanning line.

https://www.geni.com/path/Annber-Collins+is+related+to+Richard-Lann...

I know there's wrong Genealogy between these two lines ,but this is how they're looking for now.

https://www.geni.com/path/Richard-Lanning-Sr+is+related+to+Joseph-L...

https://www.geni.com/discussions/280023?msg=1706368 - thank you very much for your feedback. As you see, we agree, and have fixed the Geni tree.

It’s so nice to hear from a reliable source.

@Perry

Thank for the information, my one track mind forgot to acknowledge that. I get carried away sometimes :)

A better tag at Perry Streeter!

No need to respond. Just letting you know you’re appreciated.

Erica Howton "The feeling is mutual" :)

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