I was just requested to merge two profiles. When i viewed them i got the question
"Yes merge these profiles" So that i did. Then i got the message" You are not permitted to edit these profiles" " contact the maneger ................. in order to request a merge"
????? This is not the first time, why does this happen??
I have contacted the person who requested the merge, she replied that Geni had listed me as maneger and placed me as recipient of the merge request?????
I've recently had a couple of requests where Geni asks me not to merge the entries, but to "approve" the merge - in those cases, I usually was collaborator with the profile owner on one of the profiles, but not the other.
I wonder if Geni is somehow allowing mergers that have been approved by someone for both sides, even though there are no collaborators with access to both profiles?
Harald, that is exactly what is happening (and it's great). The collaborator of one manager, can send the merge-request to a collaborator of the other manager. No need to involve either manager!
"In the old days", when we had two profiles and two mergers that had only had access to one profile each, we would create a duplicate and merge it, and then ask one of our "mergers" to merge with that.
I have made a suggestioen in another discussion :
(But - alas - again it is a little on the fringes of this debate )
If you request one (or more ) person(s) to perform a merge
and they dont respond in certain , given time , one should be allowed to perform that merge oneself anyway . Then you get rid of these eternal
"merge issues" and "tree matches" on your own . In most cases anyhow .
You could get rid of many bothering issues that way .
Thank you !
Michael if your situation is like Sherry's, then most likely there's a bug or corrupted data related to the merge -- if you're still having this problem please email email@example.com with the specifics and we'll look into it.
Johan we've been very reluctant to auto-accept merges because we don't like the idea of editing a user's data (which is effectively what merging does) without their explicit permission.
Johan, it's not perfect but we do have a way to deal with inactive users. If a user hasn't logged on in 9 months, we send them an email notifying them that if they don't come back, they'll lose management of the deceased profiles outside the 4th cousins / 3rd great grandparent radius. The issue of zombies aside, this should free up those profiles for others to take management and merge.
I'll throw another thought process out there regarding merging and managing profiles...
A few years ago I started my tree with family history compiled by my great grandmother and some of my own research to successfully join the Mayflower Society.
This endeavor was for the expressed purpose of sharing the information with my children and grand children.
Since then however, I've been besieged with never ending requests to merge profiles (mostly incorrect) and have lost 'ownership' of the very profiles I’ve added. It's gotten to the point that I can't 'search' for the family I’ve added without accessing the tree of the very people who now 'manage' the profiles which I created.
So, to any of the folks out there who suffer the malaise of OCD, who live for managing these trees, take a deep breath, and realize that not everyone has numerous hours per day to manage requests.
If Geni is rejecting "permission to merge", then thank you Geni...
@Marsha: maybe he/she left geni?
or they lost it as in the beginning of merging (2008/2009?), the manager that had the most information got management - today all adders are co-managers.
@R. Lee Stevens: all managers have once had an origin profile of "his/hers", but only one can be main manager as the whole idea is to have only one profile of every existing person ever..
Maybe, if you want management of a profile that is close to ýou, you can ask the manager to become main and claim that you perhaps are the more suitable manager of that specific profile. It is worth a try don't you think? Good Luck!