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Elizabeth Barnes (unknown)

Also Known As: "Kinnestead", "Lindley", "Barry?"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Ireland or, New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
Death: February 01, 1775 (55-64)
Orange, North Carolina, United States
Immediate Family:

Wife of Brinsley Barnes
Mother of Mary ‘of Brinsley’ Carter; John "Deaf John" Barnes; Ezekial Barnes; James "Handsome Jim" Barnes; Ann Hobson and 6 others

Family: Mother of 10 children
Managed by: Private User
Last Updated:

About Elizabeth Barnes

Elizabeth died February 01, 1775 in NC. She married Brinsley Barnes about 1733.


Disproven parents

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-466556

There is a widely circulating belief in online genealogical circles that Elizabeth (Unknown) Barnes was the daughter of James Lindley Jr. and Eleanor (Parke) Lindley, Jones. Research shows that Elizabeth Barnes is not the daughter of this couple. Please refer to the G2G thread that discusses the origins of Elizabeth Barnes. <link>


Family

Seen as daughter of James Lindley, "The Immigrant" and Eleanor Jones without supporting evidence. Disconnected April 2020.

From Descendants of Brinsley Barnes 1713 rootsweb database Change Date: 15 MAY 2013

She married Brinsley Barnes ABT 1733 in Deleware, Pennsylvania, United States, son of James Barnes and Mary. He was christened 5 FEB 1713 in Dublin, Ireland, died 5 MAY 1796 in Morgan District, Wilkes, North Carolina, USA.

Children of Elizabeth and Brinsley Barnes are:

  • + 2 i. Mary Barnes was born 17 SEP 1734 in Providence, Chester, Pennsylvania, United States, and died 6 SEP 1823 in Chatham, North Carolina, United States.
  • + 3 ii. John "Deaf" Barnes was born 1 JUL 1736 in New Garden, Kennett Twp, Chester, Pennsylvania, United States, and died 1 FEB 1822 in Taylorsville, Wilkes, North Carolina, United States.
  • + 4 iii. James "Handsome" Barnes was born 1740 in , Chester, Pennsylvania, United States, and died ABT 1832 in Rockville, Parke, Indiana, United States.
  • + 5 iv. Anne Barnes was born 17 MAR 1744 in Chester, Pennsylvania, United States, and died 1 FEB 1775 in Rocky River, Chatham, North Carolina, United States.
  • + 6 v. Brinsley Barnes was born 1745 in New Garden Twp, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA, and died 1823 in Estill, Kentucky, United States.
  • + 7 vi. Thomas Barnes was born ABT 1747 in New Garden Twp, Chester, , Pennsylvania, USA, and died 4 JAN 1823 in Cane Creek, Chatham, North Carolina, United States.
  • + 8 vii. Lydia Barnes was born 1750 in Frederick, , Virginia, USA, and died in , Parke, Indiana, United States.
  • + 9 viii. Jehu Barnes was born 1753 in , Orange, North Carolina, Unites

notes

"The Elizabeth Lindley that was the spouse of Brinsley Barnes was an older woman, probably born about 1715. A marriage record has not been found to my knowledge, but they are presumed to have married about 1733. Her eldest dau Mary Barnes, b.17 9M 1734, Chester co,PA, was the wife of Samuel Carter. She came to Cane Creek MM,NC in 1766 on certificate from Concord MM,PA. There is some reason to believe that her mother Mrs Elizabeth (Lindley) Barnes is the Elizabeth Barns who was received on request at Cane Creek MM,NC in 1760.

Comments

Update June 2018:

Cannot have been a daughter of James Lindley, "The Immigrant" & Eleanor Jones if Eleanor also had this daughter Elizabeth Jones

Update Dec 2015:

The DNA match (see below) is thought to be from the down tree Jones / Barnes marriage.

There is a "proven" daughter of James Lindley & Eleanor named Elizabeth. "This" Elizabeth cannot be the daughter of James Lindley, "The Immigrant" & Eleanor Jones

DNA testing

From DNA test indicates Elizabeth Lindley as wife of Brinsley Barnes Date: December 12, 2012 at 09:37:59

For some time, researchers have debated whether Elizabeth Lindley, daughter of James Lindley and Eleanor Parke, was the wife of Brinsley Barnes (abt 1715-1794). I recently took Ancestry.com’s new autosomal DNA test that looks at DNA passed down through both maternal and paternal lines and seeks to identify common ancestors when two people share small, but statistically significant identical pieces of DNA. I have been receiving results for the past 4 months (since July 2012) and have some interesting results that I want to share with others researching the Barnes line and looking for information on the frequently assumed marriage of Brinsley and Elizabeth Lindley.

I am a descendent of Mary Barnes, Brinsley's oldest daughter who married Samuel Carter. She is relatively well documented thru various sources as are a number of Brinsley’s other children. It was no surprise that I came up with six DNA matches to people related to one or another of her siblings. Three to Solomon Barnes, two to John Deaf Barnes and one to Brinsley Barnes Jr. Again, no surprise. These men (and their lines) are fairly well recognized as Brinsley's children.

The surprise is that I also had seven different DNA matches to James Lindley thru siblings of Elizabeth Lindley...in other words, descendants of James Lindley who have no connection to the Barnes line.

Those included three matches for brother Thomas Lindley, two for sister Margaret "Margery" Lindley. and two for sister Mary Lindley. Now, if I had gotten one or even two, I would have thought interesting, but seven matches to James Lindley when I have no other connection to the Lindley line that I know of other than thru Elizabeth, makes me pretty convinced that Elizabeth Lindley was indeed Brinsley's wife and mother of his children.

  • http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/QUAKER-ROOTS/2001-01/...
  • http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=walamb122...
  • http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adalittle...
  • Reference: Find A Grave Memorial - SmartCopy: Nov 18 2017, 18:22:49 UTC
  • Name: Mary Barry [Mary Barnes] Birth Date: 17 Nov 1734 Birth Date on Image: 17 Ninth 1734 Birth Place: Alamance, North Carolina Father: Brinssby Barry [Brinsley Barnes] Mother: Elisebeth Barry Spouse: Samuel Carter Event Type: Birth Monthly Meeting: Cane Creek Monthly Meeting Historical Meeting Data: Search for this monthly meeting in the 'Quaker Monthly Meetings Index' Yearly Meeting: North Carolina Yearly Meeting Meeting State: North Carolina Meeting County: Alamance <AncestryImage>
  • Barnes, Warren E. “Mick”, “Descendants of Brinsley Barnes & Elizabeth Lindley along the lineage of William Howard Barnes (1907-1974) & Ethel Garnell Davis (1907-1946)”, 1998, Revised 2012.
  • Hinshaw, William Wade, et al., compilers, Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy Vol. I,pages 373
  • Daughter Mary Barnes Carter [Barnes-1184] Records of Cane Creek Monthly Meeting, in William Wade Henshaw, Encyclopedia of American Quaker genealogy, Ann Arbor, MI: Edwards Brothers, inc., 1936; vol. 1, p 347, citing page 61: "[family of] Samuel Carter, s. John & Isabel, b. 12-26-1733, Ashtown Tp. Pa. [and] Mary Carter, dt. Brinsley & Elizabeth Barns, b. 9-17-1734" (followed by list of their children and birth dates); https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015002304221;view=1up;... (accessed 22 August 2017).
  • Daughter Anne Barnes Hobson [Barnes-1102] Records of Cane Creek Monthly Meeting, in William Wade Henshaw, Encyclopedia of American Quaker genealogy, Ann Arbor, MI: Edwards Brothers, inc., 1936; vol. 1, p 356, citing page 39: "[family of] Stephen Hobson s. George and Hannah n. 3-5-1742 Fredrick Co., VA [and] Anne Hobson, dt. Brinsley & Elizabeth Barns, b. 3-17-1744" (followed by list of their children and birth dates); https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015002304221;view=1up;... (accessed 22 August 2017).
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Elizabeth Barnes's Timeline

1715
1715
Ireland or, New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
1734
September 17, 1734
Chester County, Pennsylvania, Colonial
1736
1736
New Garden, Chester, Pennsylvania
1740
1740
Chester County, PA, United States
1741
July 1, 1741
Kennett Square, Chester County, Pennsylvania, USA
1744
March 17, 1744
Kennett Township, Chester County, Pennsylvania, British Colonial America
1745
1745
Kennett, Chester, Pennsylvania, United States
1746
1746
Chester County, Pennsylvania, United States