Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife

ANDREW THOMSOUN

Fake Genealogy

It has been claimed that it was Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife here treated who married Margaret Lochmalony It has also been claimed, probably because she is certainly known to have been the mother of David Thomsoun, elder, portioner of Kettle in Fife RMS 1513-46: charter number 2465 that Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife is his father. WikiTree Both propositions are wrong.

Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife and David Thomsoun, elder, portioner of Kettle in Fife were both alive on 29 September 1541. On this date Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife received a charter under the Great Seal of Scotland which confirmed that he had inherited part of the land of Freuchie in Fife from his father Thome Thomsoun. David Thomsoun, elder, portioner of Kettle in Fife also received his charter for part of the lands of Kettle in Fife on 29 September 1541 but his charter confirms that he was the son of Margaret Lochmalony and the grandson of John Thomsoun, Rentaller at Kettle in Fife David's father is not mentioned by name in his charter but it seems reasonable to conclude that his father probably died before it was issued, because David appears to have inherited his lands directly from his grandfather. Moreover, this charter treats his mother as a widow by including special financial provision for her support and the support of her younger children. It follows, therefore, that David Thomsoun, elder, portioner of Kettle in Fife who was the grandson of John Thomsoun, Rentaller at Kettle in Fife cannot possibly be the son of Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife whose father was Thome Thomsoun.

Portioner of Freuchie in Fife

Amdrew Thomsoun, here treated, was a portioner of Freuchie in Fife. He is noticed as such in a crown charter dated 29 September 1541 which identifies him as the son of Thome Thomsoun: "ANDREE THOMSOUN, filio et heredi Thome T." His father had probably died before this date. RMS 1513-46: charter number 2472

Evidence from the National Records of Scotland

29 September 1541: Charter issued under the Great Seal of Scotland by which Janes V, King of Scots, confirms possession of a one twelfth part of the lands of Fruchy, in the lordship and stewartry of Fife, to Andrew Thomsoun, son and heir of Thome Thomsoun. This land, which had previously been set in feuferme to his father, was to be held in feuferme by Andrew and his male heirs, who failing by his senior female heirs. RMS 1513-46: charter number 2472

Printed Evidence

Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum. The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, A.D. 1513-1546. Edited by James Balfour Paul, FSA. Scot., and John Maitland Thomson, MA., Advocates. (H. M. General Register House, Edinburgh, 1883), 1067 pp. including indices and errata

Research Notes

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Helen Wetnight, 365 Holly Hill Road, Oldsmar, FL 34677who cites a handwritten 9 page document prepared by Katherine Mayes Thompson states Andrew Thompson was a tenant of Fruchy in 1537 & had saine of land there in 1567, lived in Glasgow & on August 31, 1559, bought part of a farm & pasture. He w as a malturer (a Malster). He was still living in Glasgow 28 Aug 1571 when he & wife Isabella were granted a back hall with chamber & loft to the ir daughter Marion Thomson as a dowry in her marriage with John Craig.

Source: John Yanik (Reference works from Josiah VanKirk Thompson's Journals & Gustav Anjou) & Cheralynn Wilson.

(1) Critical Comment by Private User : Andrew Thomson, here mentioned, held a feu charter for a one twelfth part of the lands of Freuchie in the lordship and stewartry Fife: "duodecimam partem terrarum de Freuchy, in dominio et senesc. de Fiffe." RMS 1513-46: charter number 2472 It seems, though, that he may have died childless, because his land in Freuchie passed to his sister Issobella Thomesoun: "Issobella Thomesoun, soror quondam Andree T. portionarii de Freuchy." who, with the consent of her husband, David Williamsoun, sold this land to David Wemys of Drone and his wife Jonete Betoun before 1 September 1578. Register of the Great Seal of Scotland 1546-80: charter number 2796

(2) Critical Comment by Private User : Andrew Thomesoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife died before 1 September 1578. He is referred to as the deceased Andrew Thomesoun in a charter of that date: "quondam Andree T. portionarii de Freuchy." Register of the Great Seal of Scotland 1546-80: charter number 2796 This rules out any possibility of him being the same man as Andrew Thomson, Maltman in Glasgow because the Glasgow man was still alive on 29 April 1597.Glasgow Protocols IX: 2998

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Andrew Thompson married 1st, Margaret Lochmatomy, by whom he had a son David, born 1518. He married 2nd Isabella Normond. He was still living in Glasgow on 28 Aug 1571, when he and his wife Isabella grant a back hall with chamber and loft to their daughter Marion Thomson, as a dowry in her marriage with John Craig.

Critical Commentary by Private User : See the above mentioned critical commentary for proof that Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife was not the same person as Andrew Thomson, Maltman in Glasgow

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According to Josiah VanKirk Thompson's Journals: "Andrew Thompson was a tenant of Fruchy in 1537 & had saine of land there in 1567, lived in Glasgow & on August 31, 1559, bought part of a farm & pasture. He was a malturer (a Malster). He was still living in Glasgow 28 Aug 1571 when he & wife Isabella were granted a back hall with chamber & loft to their daughter Marion Thomson as a dowry in her marriage with John Craig.

Critical Commentary by Private User : See the above mentioned critical commentary for proof that Andrew Thomsoun, portioner of Freuchie in Fife was not the same person as Andrew Thomson, Maltman in Glasgow

Fake Genealogy Published by Wikipedia

Andrew Thompson aka Thomson. Born 1493 in Funchy, Son of John Thompson and Catherine (Afamsone) Thompson Brother of William Thompson. Husband of Margaret Lochmatony — married 1517 in Glasgow, Lenark. Husband of Isabella (Normond) Thompson — married 1520. Father of David (Thompson) Thomson, Marian (Thomson) Thompson, James Thompson and Thomas (Thomson) Thompson Died 28 Aug 1572 at about age 79 in Frunchy, Glasgow.

Andrew Thompson was born about 1490. He was a tenant of Funchy in 1537. and had sasine of land there. In 1567, he lived in Glasgow, and on Aug 31,1559 bought part of a farm and pasture. He was a malturer (a malster). He married 1st, Margaret Lochmatomy, by whom he had a son David, born 1518. He married 2nd Isabella Normond. He was still living in Glasgow on 28 Aug 1571, when he and his wife Isabella grant a back hall with chamber and loft to their daughter Marion Thomson, as a dowry in her marriage with John Craig.

Biographical Summary for Josiah Kirk Thompson

Josiah Van Kirk Thompson was a Uniontown banker who made his fortune buying and selling coal lands. After his first wife died, Thompson married Hunny Hawes, a poor girl from Smithfield who made it big in New York, in 1903 and built an ornate mansion for her at the western edge of Uniontown that they called Oak Hill. He also built the 11-story First National Bank Building in downtown Uniontown. Thompson's marriage broke up in 1913, costing him a $1 million settlement. He died bankrupt in 1933. His estate was sold to the Sisters of St. Basil, who renamed it Mount St. Macrina. His second wife was Blanche A. Gardner,died Aug. 19, 1919 and his third wife was Rose Maloney in Dec. 14,1929 in New Cumberland, WV. Find A Grave Memorial