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Louis Cordier, SV/PROG

Also Known As: "Cortje"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Beuvardes, Aisne, Picardy, France
Death: Died in Paarl, South Africa
Immediate Family:

Son of Louis Cordier and Jeanne Blessebois
Husband of Marie Marquart and Francoise Martinet, SM/PROG
Father of Suzanne Cordier, b1 SM; Jeanne Cordier, b2; Maria Cordier, b3; Louise Cordier, b3; Jacobus Cordier, b5 and 3 others
Brother of Jean Cordier; Susanna Cordier; Louise Cordier; Maria Cordier; Jacobus Cordier and 1 other

Occupation: Farmer, Bethel Dist Paarl Cape Provence South Africa, Landbouer
Managed by: Private User
Last Updated:

About Louis Cordier, SV/PROG

Marriage to Francoise Martinet SM/PROG

Epense, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France

Etat Civil - Acte de mariage/Mariage Date de l'acte : 1679.12.03 (03/12/1679) Lieu de l'acte : Epense (51) SUJET : MARTINET Francoise Père : Philippe + Mère : BURGEAT Marie CONJOINT : CORDIER Louis Infos complémentaires : Veuf de: MACART Marie(vf)

on http://www.genealogie.com/v4/genealogie/Search.mvc/Search

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8858 Louis CORDIER, Orleans, France ____, † 1702 »1. Arrived in 1688 with wife and four children, 2. Owned Bethel, Paarl Kinders (4):

x France ____, Francoise MARTINET

Champagne, France ____, † Paarl ____ »1. Arrived with husband and four children in 1688

Louis Cordier Stamvader/Progenitor

French Huguenot, fugitive

Variations of the name – Cortje

Origin of the name

Birth date – 29 March 1656; Bapt. in Guines Pas-De-Calais, France

Birth Place – Orléans, France (see Discussion - http://www.geni.com/discussions/67761)

Date of Death – 1702

Place of Death – Drakenstein, (Paarl)Cape of Good Hope, South Africa

Arrival at the Cape – 1688 with his wife Francoise Martinet and 4 Children from Champagne, France aboard “Zuid Bevelandt”

Ships Carrying Huguenots to South Africa from The Olive Tree Genealogy

Ships Passenger List for Huguenot Ship Zuid Bevelandt to South Africa 1688

Belonged to the Chamber of Zeeland. Left the Netherlands on 22 April, 1688 , arrived in Table Bay on 19 August, 1688.

  • Pierre Simond (1651-aft.1702) and Anne de Berault (1664-aft.1702)
  • Daniel des Ruelles (1640-1726) and Anne Goudalle (1651-1690)
  • Esther des Ruelles (1672-bef.1702)
  • Anne des Ruelles (1673-aft.1711)
  • Marie des Ruelles (1687-1688)
  • Loius Cordier (1650-1702) and Francois Martinet (1658-aft.1701)
  • Suzanne Cordier (1678-1715)
  • Jeanne Cordier (1680-aft.1711)
  • Marie Cordier (1683-aft.1711)
  • Louise Cordier (1685-aft.1729)
  • Charles le Long and Marie le Long
  • Esaie Caucheteaux (1673-2708)
  • Suzanne Caucheteuz (1675-aft.1707)
  • Jean Caucheteaux (1682-1718)
  • Abraham Vivier (1654-1713)
  • Pierre Vivier (1662-1714)
  • Jacques Vivier (1665-1714)
  • Salomon de Gournay (?-1718)
  • Estienne Viret (1662-1726)
  • Paul Roux (1655-1723)
  • David Senechal (1667-1746)
  • Louis de Berault (?-1689)

Sources: mostly Appendix 2 of "Hugenotebloed in ons are" by J.G. le Roux (1992; ISBN 0-7969-0566-5) and "French speakers at the Cape" by M. Boucher (1981, ISBN 0-86981-222-X)

Contributor Lesley Robertson

Parents – Louis Cordier and Jeanne Blessebois

Marriage – Francoise Martinet

Date – before 1678 in France

Children

  • b1. Susanne b. 1678 d. 1715 x Louis Fourie 
(SV/Prog)
  • b2. Jeanne b c 1680 x Matthieu Fracassé
  • b3. Louisa b. c 1682 , d. 22 Nov 1774 x Daniel Jacobs xx Jacob Pienaar 

  • b4. Maria b. c 1684 x Francois du Preez 

  • b5. Jean/Jeanne b. c 1685, x 24 Apr 1712 Jeanne Terrier 

  • b6. Jacobus (Jacques) b. c 1689 Bapt. 23 Okt 1689,
  • b7. Philippe b. c 1698, Bapt. 26 Okt 1698 x Elisabeth Malherbe 1715

Occupation – Farmer/Boer

One of the first Elders of the French Congregation of Drakenstein

1690 – received financial help.

In Distribution List 1690, and among Burghers of Drakenstein 1692 ‘with wife and five children.

1692 – owned the farm “Bethel” now Nantes, at Paarl Mountain

Notes, References, Sources/Links, Family Trees etc.

See First Fifty Years Project http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g5/p5204.htm

Richard Ball – Louis Cordier 
died circa August 1702

Inventory - Cordier, Louis - 1702, dated 1 September 1702MOOC8/1, 73

Inventaris der goederen die nagelaten zijn bij den oorleden vrijborger aan Drakensteijn Louis Cordier

Estate Accounts - Cordier, Louis - 1710, accounts dated 31 July 1710, earliest date in accounts: 18 July 1707

MOOC 13/1/1, 16

Generale Reekening van de plaets ende land gelegen aan Drakensteijn, welke door d'EE: Weesmeesteren alhier op den 27 Junij 1707 bij open[baare] vendutie aan de meestbiedenden sijn verkogt voor de kinderen en erfgenamen van Louijs Cordier ...

Botha, C.G. - The French Refugees at the Cape

page 63

Louis with his wife Francoise Martinet and four children, received assistance in 1690

Notes: There are only four children for whom I can find documentary evidence 
as being his children - they are Jeanne and Susanna whose husbands
are described as the sons-in-law of Louis Cordier in the inventory of 1702,
and Jacobus and Phlippus, for whom baptismal records exist.

In the estate accounts of 1710, however, when his land was sold and the
 proceeds distributed among his heirs, each of whom received 265 gulden,
these heirs were named as:


Matthijs Frissas


Louijs Fourije


David Jacobs


Francoijs du Pree


Jacob Cordier


Jan Cordier


Marten Cordier


Philip Cordier



I have therefore taken this as the definitive list of his children surviving 
at that date and have arranged them in that order. Presumably the four
 daughters had been born in Europe and arrived with their parents.

- on http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/dutoit/I576.html

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EIe boedel en inventaris MOOOC8/1.73 (1.9.1702 en MOOC10/1.44 (27 Junie 1707)

Judi Marais-Meyer register MRIN647

He agreed on a marriage contract in 1664 (when he would have been 8yrs old?) and was married about 1678 (22 yrs old). [Is this an arranged marriage? - Sharon]

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[http://www.stamouers.com/ Stamouers Entry]

Louis CORDIER was 'n Franse Hugenoot van Orleans wat aangekom het in 1688 met sy vrou Francoise MARTINET en 4 kinders.

(Hulle het met die Zuid-Beveland gevaar van Nederland op 22 April 1688 en in Tafelbaai ingevaar op 19 Augustus 1688. Die weer was so sleg dat hulle eers op 26 Augustus aan land kon gaan. ) Hy was 'n landbouer en een van die eerste ouderlinge van die Franse gemeente Drakenstein, waar hy in 1 Januarie 1689 te Bethel, Paarl gevestig was. Hy het finansieele hulp ontvang in 1690 en is is oorlede in 1702. Hy het 3 seuns en 4 dogters gehad - 4 van hulle in Europa gebore.

KINDERS

1. Susanna x Louis Fourie

2. Louisa x Daniel Jacobs xx Jacob Pienaar

3. Maria x Francois du Preez

4. Jean x 24 Apr 1712 Jeanne Terrier

5. Jeanne x Matttheus Frachas

6. Jacobus (Jacques) ~ 23 Okt 1689, boer op De Vondeling, Wagenmakersvallei.

7. Philippus ~ 26 Okt 1698 x Elisabeth Malherbe

Verwysings:

  • De Villiers/Pama
  • Heese/Lombard
  • Verwysingsmateriaal, Boksburg biblioteek
  • Verwysingsmateriaal, Springs LDS FHC biblioteek
  • The Huguenots of South Africa 1688-1988, P. Coertzen

Saamgestel deur:

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http://www.archive.org/stream/frenchrefugeesat00both/frenchrefugeesat00both_djvu.txt

Extracted from the Full text of "The French refugees at the Cape"

“Louis, with his wife Francoise Martinet and four children, received assistance in 1690 ; was an agriculturist, and one of the first elders of the French congregation at Drakenstein ; died in 1702. They must have arrived about 1688, for the next year their son, Jacques Cordier, was baptised, and in his will, dated 1713, the latter states his age as 25 years.

After the arrival of the French Refugees the first church arrangements made were that Reverend Simond should preach at Stellenbosch and Drakenstein on alternate Sundays until such time as a church could be built. Stellenbosch had an established Consistory of its own, and the Refugees, therefore, did not feel satisfied to form a portion of that congregation. In November, 1689, they approached Simon van der Stel and his Council with the request for permission to have a separate congregation. Before leaving Holland they had been promised their own clergyman. From this they had presumed that they were to have their own congregation. According to the resolutions of the Council of the 28th of that month, it is clear that this petition was not well received. During the debate van der Stel spoke with impatience and some vehemence. " What," said he, " here are men who have fled from France on account of the religious persecutions in that country and who have sought refuge in other countries, especially in Holland; men, who, that they might lead lazy and indolent lives under the cloak of being zealots, members and supporters of the Protestant faith, obtained a passage to the Cape in the Company's ships that they might earn their living as agriculturists and by other industry ; who have been treated with every kindness by us, yea ! even better than our own nation. Not only will they want their own church, but they will be wanting their own magistrate, Commander-in-Chief and Prince."

After due deliberation the Council decided to reprimand the petitioners and bring them to their senses by advising them to do their duty, so that their impertinence's might be checked and their plots prevented in time. The deputation was composed of Rev. Simond, as spokesman, Jacques de Savoye, David de RueUe, Abraham de Villiers and Louis Cordier. They had waited outside the Council Chamber while the debate was in progress, and were now called in. The Governor asked the pastor to read to the deputation the oath of allegiance, which every Cape freeman had to take. Before dismissing them he strictly warned them to conduct themselves in accordance with their oath, and in future not to trouble him with such impertinent requests, but to be satisfied with the Consistory at Stellenbosch.

The Reverend Simond had some time before this addressed a letter to the Directorate regarding the French congregation, but no reply could, as yet, have been received. A favourable view was, however, taken by the supreme authorities, for they wrote to the Cape on the 17th December, 1690, and referred to Reverend Simond's letter and the deputation of the 28th November. They approved of a separate church being established at Drakenstein on the following conditions :

A Church Council or Consistory {Kerkenraad) was to be established composed of the French people, elders and deacons were to be elected and — if such could be found — they were to be those versed in the Dutch and French languages. A yearly list of names was to be submitted to the Council of Policy for approval.

On the 30th December, 1691, the first Consistory of the French congregation at Drakenstein was constituted. The office-bearers appointed were Claude Marais, Louis de Berault and Louis Cordier as elders, Abraham de Villiers, Pierre Meyer, Pierre Beneset and Pierre Rousseau as deacons.

Claude Marais had already held office as deacon of the Stellenbosch Church the previous year, 2 and de Berault retired as deacon from the Cape Town Church at the same time.”

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http://ancestry24.com/french-refugees-cape/

Extract

“The French were however, not satisfied with their minister’s seat on the church council of Stellenbosch and the consistory of the Cape, but wanted their own church council. They delegated Simond with a deputation of four – Jacob (Jacques) de Savoye, Daniel de Ruelle, Abraham de Villiers and Louis Cordier – to put their request to the Council of Policy on 28 November 1689. Van der Stel was very indignant, and he and the Council refused the request. The Directors, however, discussed it at their meeting on 6 December 1690 and granted permission for the election of a French church council in Drakenstein. The explicit policy was, however, to scatter the French among the Dutch free burghers and to teach their children French as well as Dutch.

The first council of the French congregation was established on 30 December 1691. Claude Marais, Louis de Berault and Louis Cordier were chosen as elders, and Abraham de Villiers, Pierre Meyer, Pierre Beneset and Pierre Rousseau as deacons. In the beginning the French congregation of Drakenstein assembled in the house of one of the free burghers; later a shed was built, which collapsed in 1718.” Some sources say he was born at Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France. According to The Huguenots of South Africa 1688-1988 p. 156 his place of origin was Orleans, France (in French he would say he was Orleannais - similar to I am a New Yorker, meaning I am from New York). However, that does not necessarily mean Orleans is his place of birth.

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'n Franse Hugenoot van Orleans wat aangekom het in 1688.

Hy was 'n landbouer en een van die eerste ouderlinge van die Franse gemeente Drakenstein, waar hy in 1 Januarie 1689 te Bethel, Paarl gevestig was.

Hy het finansiele hulp ontvang in 1690 en is is oorlede in 1702.

Hy het 3 seuns en 4 dogters gehad - 4 van hulle in Europa gebore.

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Children:

Susanna Fourie (born Cordier) (1674 - 1714) Maria du Preez (born Cordier) (1680 - 1711) Louisa Jacobs (born Cordier) (1685 - 1774) Jean Cordier (1685 - ?) Sara Cordier (1687 - ?) Jeanne Cordier (1687 - ?) Jacobus Cordier (1689 - 1731) Philippe Cordier (1698 - 1783)

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Jeanne Blessebois, gebore 1628, ? Orleanais, Frankryk, trou 1664, Louis Cordier, born 1624.

Kinders van Jeanne Blessebois en Louis Cordier:

Louis Cordier 1656-1702, gebore 29 Maart 1656, Orleanais, , , Frankryk, sterf 1702, trou <1688> Frankryk Francoise Martinet, circa 1650-1698 [PROG/SV]

Source: http://pretoriusfamilie.info/pret1/I22773.html

Added by Y. DROST, 24 NOV 2012

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Father | Male: Louis Cordier, Born 1624 Orleanais, France

Mother | Female: Jeanne Blessebois, Born 1628 Orleanais, France

Child 1 | Male: > Louis Cordier or (Cortje), (Stamvader), Born 29 Mar 1656 Orleanais, France, Died 1702 Paarl, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa.

Spouse: Francoise Martinet | F481 , Married 1664 Source: http://rudolph-gen.com/familygroup.php?familyID=F480&tree=rudolph

Added by Y. DROST, 24 NOV 2012

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Jeanne BLESSEBOIS

Born: Abt 1628, Orleanais, France

Marriage: Louis CORDIER

Jeanne married Louis CORDIER. (Louis CORDIER was born about 1624 in Orleanais, France.)

Children: Louis CORDIER

Born: Abt 1655, Artois, France

Marriage: Francoise MARTINET about 1658 in France

Died: Abt 1702, Paarl, , Cape Province, South Africa aged about 47

Louis married Francoise MARTINET about 1658 in France. (Francoise MARTINET was born about 1660 in France and died about 1701.)

Source: http://www.montxsuz.ca/familie/genealogy/518.htm

Added by Y. DROST, 24 NOV 2012

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Genealogical Notes

  • Emigrated to South Africa: 1688
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Louis Cordier, SV/PROG's Timeline

1656
March 29, 1656
France
1656
Beuvardes, Aisne, Picardy, France
1679
December 3, 1679
Age 23
France
1681
March 7, 1681
Age 25
Epense, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
1683
February 2, 1683
Age 27
Epense, Marne
1685
1685
Age 29
Guisnes, France
1685
Age 29
Cape of Good Hope
1685
Age 29
Western Cape, South Africa
1688
1688
Age 32
to South Africa
1688
Age 32