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Sir James Schaw of Sauchie, Knt.

Also Known As: "Shaw"
Birthdate:
Death: January 1528
Immediate Family:

Son of John Schaw of Alva and Knockhill and Jonet Forrester
Husband of Christian Bruce and Alison Hume
Father of Sir Alexander Schaw of Sauchie; Elizabeth Schaw of Sauchie and John Schaw of Broich
Brother of George Schaw of Knockhill
Half brother of Patrick Murray; Elizabeth Murray; William Murray of Romanno; James Murray of Falahill and John Murray of Falahill

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About Sir James Schaw of Sauchie

James Schaw of Sauchie was in the late 1400's commander of the garrison of Stirling Castle during a difficult time in Scotland's history. He was Knighted for his services by the Scottish king.

Family

James Schaw was born in Sauchie, Clackmannshire, Scotland, and died JAN 1528. He was the son of John Shaw of Alveth and heir to his grandfather, James Schaw of Sauchie (d 1491). Of age in 1502.

He married

  1. ? Christian Bruce, daughter of Sir David Bruce and Marion Herries
  2. Alison Home, daughter of Patrick Home and Margaret St. Clair. She was born in Polwarth, Berwickshire, Scotland, and was living in 1526.

Children of James Schaw are:

  • Alexander Schaw of Sauchie was born in Sauchie, Clackmannshire, Scotland, and died BEF JUL 1549. Married 2) Elizabeth Cunningham of Glengarnock
  • John Schaw of Broich was born in Sauchie, Clackmannshire, Scotland, and died ? .
  • Elizabeth Schaw, died 1559. Mistress of James V. Married Robert Gib of Carribber.

Biography

Gordon A. MacGregor writes: "SIR JAMES SCHAW OF SAUCHIE, succeeded his father and had a charter from James, Lord Haliburton, for the lands of Auchengownie, in the barony of Forgandenny, on 2 February, 1502. He m. Alison, daughter of Sir Patrick Home of Polwarth, with whom he had a charter under the Great Seal for the lands of Greenock-Schaw on 4 December, 1506, and d. in January of 1528. He was father of

  • 1. Alexander Schaw of Sauchie who had a charter under the Great Seal for the lands of Westerton of Tillicoultry on 8 May, 1513, and succeeded his father in the lands of Sauchie. He m. Elizabeth, daughter of William Cunningham of Glengarnock, with whom he had a charter of confirmation under the Great Seal for the lands of Wester Greenock-schaw on 14 January, 1540. He d. by July of 1549.
  • 2. John Schaw, witness to an instrument of Sasine for the lands of Greenock-schaw in favour of his brother Alexander Schaw of Sauchie, on 21 February, 1540."

"Sir James Schaw, grandson of the aforementioned James Schaw, whilst Keeper of Stirling Castle, denied James III access to his son the Duke of Rothesay and was later implicated in the conspiracy which ultimately led to the kings demise at Sauchieburn. James was pardoned by James IV and reinstated as Keeper of Stirling Castle."

"Alexander Shaw of Sauchie gave the Lands of Greenock in Patrimony to John Shaw, his eldest son, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, daughter of William Cunningham of Glengarnock."
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Notes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Schaw

William Schaw was the second son of John Schaw of Broich, and grandson of Sir James Schaw of Sauchie.

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/QD...

Can someone point me toward good sources of information about SirJames Shaw of Sauchie, father of Janet Shaw who married Sir Archibald Edmonstone of Duntreath in about 1479? He appears to have been Governor of Stirling Castle, royal guardian, and Ambassador to England during the 1470s. I'm guessing he was born say about 1430. And, he may have married Christian Bruce of Clackmannan. ...

References

  • The Scots peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom. Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931. “Hume, Earl of Marchmont.” Page 4. Archive.Org Alison Home married to Sir James Shaw of Sauchie.
  • The Scots peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom. “Bruce, Earls of Elgin and Ailesbury.” Page 471. Archive.Org Christian Bruce married Sir James Shaw of Sauchie.
  • https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mlysell&...
  • https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getpe... Stirnet Shaw01 does not show the marriage to Christian Bruce who married a Sir James Schaw or Shaw of Sauchie, presumed to be of this generation.
  • [S6] Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Shaw01
  • *https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1567.htm... Shows this family, with no parents listed for James: Children of Christian Bruce and James Schaw: 1) Ellen Shaw+2 m Sir Patrick Home (son of Sir David Home, Master of Wedderburn and Elizabeth Carmichael, before 24 March 1490) 2) Janet Shaw married Sir Archibald Edmonstone, 3rd Laird Edmonstone, son of Sir William Edmonstone and Matilda Stewart.1 Janet Shaw was born circa 1455 at of Sauchie, Clackmannan, Scotland 3) Joan Shaw+3 b. c 1495 (??) m William Wallace, Laird of Johnston & Auchenbathie-Wallace (son of John Wallace and Catherine Cunningham, circa 1519 at Scotland.1)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Schaw cites
  • 1. Weir, Daniel (1829). History of the town of Greenock. p. 7.
  • 2. “Schaw". www.myclan.com. Archived from the original on 22 May 2006. Retrieved 21 January 2009.
  • 3. "Dictionary of American Family Names", Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-508137-4" cited at Ancestry.com http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Shaw-family-history.ashx
  • 4. MacDonald, Micheil (1995). The Clans of Scotland, The History and Landscape of the Scottish Clans. London: Grange Books. pp. 172–173. ISBN 1-85627-749-6.
  • [http://www.scotclans.com/scottish-clans/clan-schaw/ Clan Schaw at ScotClans.com
  • ] Sir James Shaw of Sauchie1 M, #274575 Last Edited=19 Mar 2008,Sir James Shaw of Sauchie married Christian Bruce, daughter of Sir David Bruce of Clackmannan and Mariot Herries.1 Citations [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1294. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  • The Schaws of Sauchie, Greenoch, Isle of Man and New Zealand, J.C. Shere, Private Publication, New Zealand, 1992.
  • Journal of A Lady of Quality, edited by Evangelene Walker Andrews, Yale University Press, 1921. Second Printing 1922, Reprinted 1939. Reprinted 1971, The Reprint Co., Spartanburg, S.C.
  • https://sites.rootsweb.com/~dearbornboutwell/fam7255.html
  • “Old Greenock from the Earliest Times to the Early Part of the Nineteenth ...“ By George Williamson. Page 275. GoogleBooks Greenock was not the original family estate. The original family were the Shaws of Sauchie, and they acquired the Barony of Wester Greenock in the reign of Robert III., by intermarriage with the daughter and heiress of Galbraith of Greenock.” After referring to Craufurd's “ History of Renfrewshire,” and Douglas's “Baronage,” in corroboration of the foregoing statements, the pedigree proceeds—“By Charter dated 4th December, 1506, James IV. grants to Sir James Shaw of Sauchie and Alison Hume, his spouse, the lands of Greenock-Shaw, &c. Sir James seems to have married, second, Christian, daughter of Sir David Bruce of Clackmannan the ancestor of the Earls of Elgin, and descended from an uncle of King Robert the Bruce. Alexander Schaw, designed son and heir of Sir James Schaw of Sauchy . . on 14th January 1539 obtained a charter to himself and Elizabeth Cunninghame, his spouse, of the lands of Wester Greenock-Shaw and others. This lady was his second wife, and daughter of William Cunninghame of Glengarnock. .... For further information regarding the Schaws of Sauchie and Greenock we refer to “Genealogical notes anent some ancient Scottish Families, with index by David Marshall, F.S.A. Scot., Lochleven Place, Kinross; introduction and annotations by John Brown Brown-Morrison of Finderlie, F.R.S.E., F.S.A. Scot., privately printed at Perth in 1884," a work of deep interest and great research.
  • “Genealogical notes anent some ancient Scottish families, with index.” By David Marshall. “Schaw of Sauchie.” Page 106 Archive.Org James Shaw, heir of deceased James Shaw of Sauchy, his grand father (died 1491), probably by John Shaw of Alva, his son. Spouse of Alison Hume in 1506. Alexander Shaw, their son in 1508. ... Elison Hume his spouse in 1526 ...
  • Red Book of Scotland 4. Christina Bruce married Sir James Schaw of Sauchie, and had issue.
  • “ The Origins of Freemasonry: Scotland's Century, 1590-1710.” By David Stevenson. Page 27. GoogleBooks John Schaw of Broich, father of James Schaw, master of works, was the younger son of James Schaw of Sauchie, died 1528.
  • Stirnet: Shaw 01 Does not list Christian Bruce.
  • “Abstract of Protocol Book of the Burgh of Stirling.” The Scottish Antiquary, or, Northern Notes and Queries, vol. 10, no. 38, 1895, pp. 55–64. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/25516826. Accessed 17 Aug. 2020.
  • ” Logie; A Parish History.” by Fergusson, Robert Menzies. Publication date 1905. Page 89. Archive.Org chart Page 180. Archive.Org
  • https://archive.org/details/anent1884/page/117/mode/1up
  • Life and times of Robert Gib Volume 1. Page 223. link
  • https://chriswestancestryblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/10/the-shaws-of...

"James Shaw-had sasine of the lands of Greenock- Shaw " as heir of the deceased James Shaw of Sauchy, his grandfather, who died infeft in the lands of Greenock- Schaw, which had been in the king's hands by the space of one year, 1492, so that old James, the grand- father, has died in 1491, and left, probably by John Shaw of Alva, his son, so called in the records of 1488, James, his oye, who was his heir." (Notes of Sauchie Writs.) Sir James Shaw of Sauchie, knight, was infeft in the half barony of Salquhy as heir to James Shaw, his grandfather, in the tenth year of the king's reign (1498), He had a charter by James IV. of the lands of Auchin- govny, in the barony of Forguntdeny, and shire of Perth, on the resignation of Sir James Haliburtoun. knight, Lord of said barony, 3 March, 1502. (Reg. Mag. Sig., Lib. 14, No. 27.) He had a Charter to himself and Alison Hume, his spouse, of the lands of Greenock-Shaw, &c, 4 December, 1506. (Reg. Mag. Sig., Lib. 14, No. 282, and Notes of Sauchie Writs.) He had a charter on an apprising of parts of the lands of Greenock, and of Class (or Clash), and third part lands of Eister Gartquheny, lying in the barony of Cal- lendar and shire of Stirling, 4 November, 1507. (Reg. Mag. Sig., Lib. 15, No. 2 ; Notes of Sauchie Writs.) He had a Tack from James IV. to his familiar lovit, James Shaw of Sauchy, knight, and Alison Hume, his spouse, and Alexander Shaw, their son, and heir apparent of the king's lands of W esterton of Tolycultry, under the Privy Seal, at Edinburgh, 16 September, 1 508. Sir James sat in the Parliament of 1 5 1 3. (Notes of Sauchie Writs ; Robertson's Parliamentary Records, p. 536.) There is a Discharge by Adam Lindsay of Dowhill to Mr. John Spense of Cowdon in a law plea by the said Adam against Sir James Shaw of Sauchy, knight, and Elison Hume, his spouse, 1526. (Ibid.) He had a Letter of Reversion from Mr. John Campbell of Lundy, and Dame Isabell Gray, Lady Dudop, his spouse, of the "mare half" of the lands of Auchin- gowny, to whom the lands were woodset under re- demption for the " soum of Twelf scor and Ten merkis vsuall money of Scotland." Dated at Perth, 1st February, 1526. (Morton Papers, Box 1, No. 3, Kinross Charter Room.)

"Alexander Shaw, then apparent of Sauchie, granted to John Shaw, his brother, a Charter of the liferent of the lands of Ryal, to which his seal is appended ; on which Crawfurd remarks, that this is the first John Shaw of Broich for certain, the date is 151 1. (Notes of Sauchie Writs.) He had a Crown Charter of the Westertown of Tulliecultre, &c, in which he is designed son and heir of James Shaw of Sauchy, knight, 8 May, 1513. (Reg. Mag. Sig., Lib. 18, No. 195.) As son and heir of the deceased Sir James Shaw of Sauchy, knight, he gave in a supplication to the king, which was granted, that in regard his lands lay in different shires he might be infeft in Clackmannan for all, 21 January, 1528. (Notes of Sauchie Writs.) He was retoured to Sir James Shaw of Sauchie, his father, in the half lands of the barony of Sauchie, with tower and fortalice of the same, then in the superior's hands for two months, 4 March, 1528, so that the father had died in January, 1528. (Ibid.) Crawfurd mentions another " Retour of Alexander Shaw of Sauchie to James Shaw, knight, his father, in 1529." He had sasine as heir to his father in the Estate in 1529." (Notes of Sauchie Writs.)" https://archive.org/details/anent1884/page/107/mode/1up

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1485
1485
Clackmannanshire, Scotland
1510
1510
Sauchie, St Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland
1528
January 1528
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