William "of the Bevis" Carpenter - William Carpenter (1576-1638) - wife?

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10/7/2012 at 8:08 PM

Can anyone confirm the identity of his wife? She is shown variously as unknown, Alice; parents unknown; and married to Mary A. Batt in 1595 in St. Edmunds in Salisbury, England.

Many thanks for source references added to the profiles.

10/7/2012 at 8:16 PM

Here is Mary Batt's profile currently Alice Carpenter

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10/7/2012 at 10:11 PM

Erica Howton sending you my peerage links my tree is questionable after 1790 however

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10/8/2012 at 12:50 AM

Benjamin Carpenter ? should we work top downward? Erica Howton

10/8/2012 at 10:19 AM

At the moment the question is:

What is the correct name in Geni for the wife of

William Carpenter of Newtown, Shalbourne Parish, Wiltshire, England
Who died circa May 1638 (62) possibly in Weymouth, Norfolk, Massachusetts

There's not a lot known about him, and the information about his wife from genealogies in the "old days" has, I believe, been updated.

BUT we need references to her most of all.

10/8/2012 at 10:33 AM

Carpenter Family

FIRST GENERATION

1. John Carpenter was born in 1303 in Delwin, Middlesex, England.

Children of John Carpenter were:

+2 i. Richard Carpenter.

SECOND GENERATION

2. Richard Carpenter was born in 1335 in London, Middlesex, England.
He died in 1395 in London, Middlesex, England.
He was married to Christina. Christina was born in 1337 in England.
Children of Richard Carpenter and Christina were:

3 i. John Carpenter Sr.

THIRD GENERATION

3. John Carpenter Sr. was born in 1372 in London, Middlesex, England.
Children of John Carpenter Sr. were:

5 i. John Carpenter Jr.

FOURTH GENERATION

5. John Carpenter Jr. was born in 1410 in London, Middlesex, England.
He was married to Katherine. Katherine was born in 1414 in England.
She died on 31 Mar 1451.
Children of John Carpenter Jr. and Katherine were:

7 i. William Carpenter.

FIFTH GENERATION

7. William Carpenter was born in 1440 in Homme, Herts, England.
He was born in 1440 in Homme, Herts, England. He died in 1520 in Hereford, England.
Children of William Carpenter were:

8 i. James Carpenter.

SIXTH GENERATION

8. James Carpenter was born in 1460 in Delwin, Herefordshire, England.
He was born in 1460 in Delwin Herts England. He died in 1537 in Herts, England.
Children of James Carpenter were:

+9 i. John Carpenter.

SEVENTH GENERATION

9. John Carpenter was born in 1480 in Delwin, Herefordshire, England.
He died in 1540 in Wrington, Somerset, England.
Children of John Carpenter and Abigail ??? were:

+10 i. William Carpenter.

EIGHTH GENERATION

10. William Carpenter was born in 1520 in Delwin, Herefordshire, England.
He died in 1587 in Wrington, Somerset, England.

Elizabeth ??? was born in England.
Children of William Carpenter and Elizabeth ??? were:

+11 i. William Carpenter.
12 ii. John Carpenter.
13 iii. Alice Carpenter.
14 iv. Maude Carpenter.
15 v. Richard Carpenter.

NINTH GENERATION

11. William Carpenter was born in 1540 in Weymouth, England.
Eleanor ??? was born in 1532 in England.
Children of William Carpenter and Eleanor ??? were:

+16 i. William Carpenter Sr..
17 ii. Richard Carpenter.

TENTH GENERATION

16. William Carpenter Sr. was born on 7 Feb 1574/75 in Wherwell, Hampshire, England.
He died in 1659 in Salisbury, Hampshire, England.

He was married to Mary Pricilla Batt in 1604 in Salisbury, Hampshire, England.
She was born on 7 Aug 1584 in Hampshire, England.
Children of William Carpenter Sr. and Mary Pricilla Batt were:

+18 i. William Batt , Jr. Carpenter.

ELEVENTH GENERATION

18. William Batt , Jr. Carpenter was born on 23 May 1605 in Wherwell,
Hampshire, England. He died on 7 Feb 1656/57 in Rehoboth, Bristol Co., ME.
He was married to Abigail Bennett in 1628 in England.
She was born in 1604 in Sway Boldre, Hampshire Co., England.
She died on 22 Feb 1685/86.
Children of William Batt , Jr. Carpenter and Abigail Bennett were:

+19 i. Captain John Carpenter.
20 ii. William Carpenter was born in 1628.
21 iii. Joseph Carpenter was born in 1633.
22 iv. Anna Carpenter was born in 1635.
23 v. Hannah Carpenter was born on 3 Apr 1640.
24 vi. Abiah Carpenter was born on 9 Apr 1643.
25 vii. Abigail Carpenter was born on 9 Apr 1643.
26 viii. Abraham Carpenter was born on 9 Apr 1643.

TWELFTH GENERATION

19. Captain John Carpenter was born in 1628 in Wherwell, Hampshire, England.
He died on 23 May 1695 in Jamaica, Queens Co., NY.
Hannah Hope was born in 1632 in Whitford, Devon, England.
Children of Captain John Carpenter and Hannah Hope were:

27 i. Temperance Carpenter was born about 1656.
28 ii. Captain John Carpenter was born in 1658.
+29 iii. Capt. Hope Carpenter.
30 iv. William Carpenter was born in 1662.
31 v. Ruth Carpenter was born in 1664.
32 vi. Captain Samuel Carpenter was born in 1666.
33 vii. Soloman Carpenter was born in 1670.

THIRTEENTH GENERATION

29. Capt. Hope Carpenter was born about 1660 in Hempstead, Nassau Co., NY.
He died before 13 May 1713 in Jamaica, Queens Co., NY.
Mary Ashman died after 13 May 1713.
Children of Capt. Hope Carpenter and Mary Ashman were:

+34 i. John Carpenter.
35 ii. Hope , Jr. Carpenter was born in 1685.
36 iii. Hezekiah Carpenter was born in 1690.
37 iv. Ashman Carpenter was born in 1691.
38 v. Hannah Carpenter was born in 1693.
39 vi. Samuel Carpenter was born in 1695.

FOURTEENTH GENERATION

34. John Carpenter was born about 1692 in Long Island, NY.
Children of John Carpenter and Mary Hurst were:

+40 i. John Carpenter.
41 ii. Caroline Carpenter.
42 iii. Hannah Carpenter.
43 iv. Sarah Carpenter.
44 v. Mary Carpenter.
45 vi. Hezekiah Carpenter.
46 vii. Joseph Carpenter.
47 viii. Ashman Carpenter I.
48 ix. David Carpenter I.
49 x. Samuel Carpenter.

FIFTEENTH GENERATION

40. John Carpenter was born about 1737 in Long Island, NY.
Ann C. ??? was born in 1739.
Children of John Carpenter and Ann C. ??? were:

50 i. Ashman Carpenter II.
51 ii. William Hanson Carpenter.
+52 iii. John Carpenter II.
53 iv. David II Carpenter was born on 12 Sep 1812.

SIXTEENTH GENERATION

52. John Carpenter II was born about 1762 in Long Island, NY.
He died before 1827 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Nancy Anna Miller about 1785.
Nancy Anna Miller was born about 1767 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of John Carpenter II and Nancy Anna Miller were:

+54 i. John Carpenter III.
+55 ii. Jane Carpenter.
+56 iii. Rheuanna Carpenter.
+57 iv. Prudence Lucy Carpenter.
+58 v. Elizabeth Carpenter.
+59 vi. Ashman Carpenter.
+60 vii. David L. Carpenter.
+61 viii. Lurenna Carpenter.
+62 ix. Mary "Polly" Carpenter.

SEVENTEENTH GENERATION

54. John Carpenter III was born on 13 Jun 1787 in Long Island, NY.
He died on 24 Jul 1861 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Mary Bunner on 19 Aug 1809 in Monongalia Co., WV.
John Carpenter III and Mary Bunner had no known children.

He was married to Anna Clwlland.
John Carpenter III and Anna Clwlland had no known children.

He was married to Joanna McGee.
John Carpenter III and Joanna McGee had no known children.

He was married to Joanna Mc Gee on 19 Aug 1809 in Monongalia Co., WV.
Children of John Carpenter III and Joanna Mc gee were:

+63 i. John M IIII Carpenter.
64 ii. William Hanson Carpenter was born in 1815.
65 iii. Nancy Ann Carpenter was born in 1817.
66 iv. Elmira Carpenter was born in 1819.

John Carpenter III and Marry Bunner had no known children.

55. Jane Carpenter was born about 1789 in Long Island, NY.
She died in Marion Co., WV. She was married to Isaaz Barnes.
Isaaz Barnes was born on 23 Apr 1788 in Marion Co., WV.
He died in Marion Co., WV.
Jane Carpenter and Isaaz Barnes had no known children.

56. Rheuanna Carpenter was born about 1791. She was born about 1791.
She was married to William Barnes Jr. on 5 Mar 1826 in Monongalia Co., WV.
Rheuanna Carpenter and William Barnes Jr.
had no known children.

57. Prudence Lucy Carpenter was born in 1795 in Long Island, NY.
She was born in 1795 in Long Island, NY. She died in
Monongalia Co., WV. She was married to George Washington Martin
on 28 Nov 1816 in Monongalia Co., WV. George Washington Martin was
born in 1797 in Marion Co., WV. He died in 1887 in Monongalia Co., WV.
Children of Prudence Lucy Carpenter and George Washington Martin were:

67 i. Josiah Martin.
68 ii. Thornton Hillery Martin.
69 iii. John Quillen Martin.
70 iv. Marry Ann Martin.
71 v. F. H. Martin.
72 vi. George Newman Martin.
73 vii. Elizabeth Martin.
74 viii. Prudence Lucy Martin.

58. Elizabeth Carpenter was born in 1799 in Long Island, NY.
She died on 9 Jun 1854 in Marion Co., WV.
She was married to William Baker. He was born in 1799 in
Monongalia Co., WV. Elizabeth Carpenter and William Baker
had no known children.

59. Ashman Carpenter was born on 26 Apr 1801 in Monongalia Co., WV.
He died on 6 Dec 1886 in Marion Co., WV.

He was married to Emily Martin on 13 Jun 1822.
Emily Martin was born on 29 Mar 1800 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 23 Apr 1855 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of Ashman Carpenter and Emily Martin were:

75 i. Uriah Carpenter.
76 ii. Lovina Carpenter.
77 iii. Ethan Carpenter.
78 iv. Louisa "Eliza" Carpenter.
79 v. John Carpenter.
80 vi. David Carpenter.
81 vii. Rheuanna Carpenter.
82 viii. Ashman , Jr. Carpenter.
83 ix. George L. Carpenter.

Ann Shaw was born in 1800 in Green Co. Pa.
Ashman Carpenter and Ann Shaw had no known children.

Elizabeth Ann Robison was born in 1817 in Ireland.
She died on 7 Feb 1881 in Marion Co., WV.
Ashman Carpenter and Elizabeth Ann Robison had no known children.

60. David L. Carpenter was born on 7 Jul 1803 in Monongalia Co., WV.
He died on 1 Nov 1886 in Marion Co., WV.
David L. Carpenter and Susannah W. Sheets had no known children.

David L. Carpenter and Elizabeth Ann West had no known children.

He was married to Sarah L. Mundfll about 1826 in Monongalia Co., WV.
Sarah L. Mundfll was born on 19 Feb 1808 in Green Co. Pa.
She died on 20 Dec 1885 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of David L. Carpenter and Sarah L. Mundfll were:

84 i. Roanna Carpenter.
85 ii. Elizabeth J. Carpenter was born in 1830 in
Marion Co., WV.
She died on 11 Mar 1847 in Marion Co., WV.
86 iii. Laurenna Carpenter.
87 iv. Margaret A. Carpenter.
88 v. William H. Carpenter.
89 vi. Sarah D. Carpenter was born in 1840 in
Marion Co., WV.
She died on 9 Mar 1848 in Marion Co., WV.
90 vii. Thomas J. Carpenter.
91 viii. George W. Carpenter.

61. Lurenna Carpenter was born on 18 Dec 1811 in Monongalia Co., WV.
She died on 10 Sep 1860 in Taylor Co., WV.
She was married to Richard Harr on 23 Oct 1827 in Monongalia Co., WV.
Richard Harr was born on 26 Sep 1806 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 2 Jun 1901 in Taylor Co., WV.
Children of Lurenna Carpenter and Richard Harr were:

+92 i. Thomas Firman Harr.
+93 ii. Elizabeth Ann Harr.
+94 iii. James Minor , Sr. Harr.
+95 iv. Sarah Adaline Harr.
96 v. Cassa Harr was born in 1838 in Taylor Co., WV.
+97 vi. John Marion Harr.
98 vii. Asahel Harr was born in 1840.

62. Mary "Polly" Carpenter was born in 1797 in Long Island, NY.
She died on 9 Jun 1854 in Marion Co., WV.

She was married to John Satterfield on 12 Apr 1816 in
Monongalia Co., WV.He was born on 5 Jun 1796 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 7 Mar 1857. Children of Mary "Polly" Carpenter and
John Satterfield were:

99 i. Carpenter H. Satterfield.
100 ii. Melinda Jane Satterfield.
101 iii. William Hanks Satterfield.
102 iv. Mary L.Satterfield.
103 v. Eli J. Satterfield.
104 vi. Phebe A.Satterfield.
105 vii. John H.Satterfield.
106 viii. Edger Carpenter Satterfield.
107 ix. Newton B. ,Sr. Satterfield was born in 1832.
108 x. Franklin B. Satterfield was born in 1834.
109 xi. Benjamin N. Satterfield.
110 xii. Elijah Satterfield was born in 1837.
111 xiii. Rowanna K. Satterfield was born in 1838.

EIGHTEENTH GENERATION

80. David Carpenter was born in 1834 in Richland Co., OH.
He was described as 29 years old,5'7", Fair complexion,
blue eyes, dark hair on 7 Jul 1865 in Munsons Hill, VA.1
He died on 28 Sep 1898 in Marion Co., WV.
He served in the military 9 apr 1865 to 1 jul 1865 in Munsons Hill, VA.1
Capt. Richard E. Burtons Co. E, 7th WV Infantry Regiment

He was married to Martha Jane Keener on 23 Feb 1865 in Taylor Co., WV.
Martha Jane Keener was born on 25 Jan 1846 in Taylor Co., WV.
She died on 22 Nov 1920 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of David Carpenter and Martha Jane Keener were:

149 i. Parthena Jane Carpenter.
150 ii. David Ashman Carpenter.
151 iii. George Thomas Carpenter was born in Aug 1871.
152 iv. John Marion Carpenter.
153 v. Sara Francis Carpenter was born on 8 Apr 1877.
154 vi. Emma Catherine Carpenter.
155 vii. Lewis Edward , Sr. Carpenter.
156 viii. James William Carpenter.
157 ix. Elmore Curtis Carpenter.

He was married to Parthena Phillips on 26 Nov 1855 in Marion Co., WV.
Parthena Phillips was born in 1833 in Marion Co., WV.
She died in 1864 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of David Carpenter and Parthena Phillips were:

+158 i. Jacob Bunner Carpenter.
+159 ii. Amos Huffman Carpenter.
+160 iii. Albert Monroe Carpenter.
+161 iv. Rebecca Ann Carpenter.

82. Ashman , Jr. Carpenter was born on 5 Apr 1837 in Marion Co., WV.
He died in Jul 1923 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Margaret Sapp on 16 May 1861 in Marion Co., WV.
Margaret Sapp was born in 1843 in Marion Co., WV. She died in Jul 1923.
Children of Ashman , Jr. Carpenter and Margaret Sapp were:

170 i. Frank Carpenter.
171 ii. Eliza Carpenter.
172 iii. Benjamin Carpenter was born in 1867
in Marion Co., WV.
173 iv. Joseph E. Carpenter was born in 1874
in Marion Co., WV.

83. George L. Carpenter was born on 20 Jun 1841 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 28 Jun 1893 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Clarissa Jane Vincent on 3 Apr 1864 in Marion Co., WV.
Clarissa Jane Vincent was born in 1844 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 28 Jun 1898 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of George L. Carpenter and Clarissa Jane Vincent were:

174 i. James F. Carpenter.
175 ii. William B. Carpenter.
176 iii. Charles C. Carpenter.
177 iv. John W. Carpenter.
178 v. Victoria E. Carpenter.
179 vi. Ott Carpenter.
180 vii. Nora E. Carpenter.
181 viii. Maude Carpenter.
182 ix. Crit Carpenter.
183 x. Guy Carpenter.
184 xi. Roy Carpenter.

George L. Carpenter and Oiven McNamorrow had no known children.

84. Roanna Carpenter was born on 27 Jun 1827 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 29 Mar 1878 in Marion Co., WV.
She was married to Caleb D.Reed on 7 Mar 1848 in Marion Co., WV.
Roanna Carpenter and Caleb D.Reed had no known children.

NINETEENTH GENERATION

150. David Ashman Carpenter was born on 21 Sep 1868 in Bunner Ridge, Marion Co. WV.
He died on 17 Mar 1940 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Maggie Ellen Morris on 24 Apr 1891 in Marion Co., WV.
Maggie Ellen Morris was born on 8 Oct 1873 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 22 Sep 1937 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of David Ashman Carpenter and Maggie Ellen Morris were:

287 i. Bertha Lenal Carpenter was born on 11 Dec 1892
in Marion Co., WV. She died on 28 Feb 1907 in Marion
Co., WV.
288 ii. Hershel Everett Carpenter was born on 12 Feb 1898
in Marion Co., WV. He died on 26 Sep 1898 in
Marion Co., WV.
289 iii. Denzil Earl Carpenter.
290 iv. Enid Leota Carpenter.
291 v. Ramah Audrea Carpenter.
292 vi. Mary Margaret Carpenter.
293 vii. Virginia Verlena Carpenter was born on 12 Feb 1917
in Marion Co., WV. She died on 11 May 1986 in
Marion Co., WV.

152. John Marion Carpenter was born on 8 Apr 1874 in Taylor Co., WV.
He died on 27 Dec 1918 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Nancy Matilda Vincent on 20 Feb 1897 in Marion Co., WV.
Nancy Matilda Vincent was born on 29 Oct 1877 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 17 Apr 1950 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of John Marion Carpenter and Nancy Matilda Vincent were:

294 i. Amos Stephen Carpenter.
295 ii. Gertie Belle Carpenter.
296 iii. Julia Pearl Carpenter.
297 iv. Lena Ellen Carpenter.
298 v. Nancy Lula Carpenter.
299 vi. Violet Altha Carpenter.
300 vii. Virgil David Carpenter.
301 viii. Clyde Anson Carpenter.
302 ix. Goldie Alice Carpenter.

154. Emma Catherine Carpenter was born on 30 Apr 1880 in Marion Co., WV.
She was married to John D. Bizet on 23 Feb 1898 in Marion Co., WV.
John D. Bizet was born in Feb 1875 in Allegheny Co.Pa. He died in Marion Co., WV.
Children of Emma Catherine Carpenter and John D. Bizet were:

303 i. Sarah Francis Bizet.
304 ii. James Bizet.
305 iii. Emma Bizet.
306 iv. Ida Bizet.
307 v. Elmer Earl Bizet.
308 vi. Beulah A. Bizet.
309 vii. Ethel Bizet.
310 viii. John Louis Bizet.
311 ix. Thomas Bizet.

155. Lewis Edward , Sr. Carpenter was born on 15 May 1870 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 1 Oct 1957 in Marion Co., WV.
He was married to Martha Ann Moats on 22 May 1901 in Marion Co., WV.
Martha Ann Moats died about 1932.
Children of Lewis Edward , Sr. Carpenter and Martha Ann Moats were:

312 i. Lovie Emma Carpenter was born in 1901 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 31 Oct 1912 in Marion Co., WV.
313 ii. Nova Carpenter was born in 1903 in Marion Co., WV.
314 iii. John Thomas , Sr. Carpenter.
315 iv. Eva Ocie Carpenter.
316 v. Ruby May Carpenter.
317 vi. Grace Marie Carpenter.
318 vii. Lewis Edward , Jr. Carpenter.
319 viii. David Ashman Carpenter.
320 ix. Susie Marie Carpenter was born in 1922 in Marion Co., WV.
321 x. Violet Virginia Carpenter was born on 11 Nov 1923 in Marion Co., WV.

He was married to Missouri Kirk about 1933 in Marion Co., WV.
Missouri Kirk was born on 9 Nov 1895.
She was born on 9 Nov 1896 in Taylor Co., WV.
She died on 4 Apr 1956 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of Lewis Edward , Sr. Carpenter and Missouri Kirk were:

322 i. Ocie Mae Carpenter was born on 27 Jan 1934.

156. James William Carpenter was born on 30 Sep 1885 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 31 Jan 1923 in Coffman, Taylor Co. WV.
He was married to Nancy Alic Kirk on 22 Nov 1905 in Marion Co., WV.
Nancy Alice Kirk was born on 2 Jul 1888 in Irondale, Taylor Co., WV.
She died on 28 Feb 1954 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of James William Carpenter and Nancy Alic Kirk were:

323 i. Josie Florence Carpenter.
324 ii. Martha Ellen Carpenter.
325 iii. Lelah Gay Carpenter.
326 iv. Emma Catherine Carpenter.
327 v. Marie Carpenter was born on 12 May 1918 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 12 May 1918 in Marion Co., WV.
328 vi. Thena Jane Carpenter.

157. Elmore Curtis Carpenter was born on 3 Jul 1888 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 6 Sep 1931 in Marion Co., WV.
Nettie Florence Nuzum was born about 1890 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of Elmore Curtis Carpenter and Nettie Florence Nuzum were:

329 i. George David Carpenter was born on 2 Nov 1910.
330 ii. Lillie May Carpenter.

158. Jacob Bunner Carpenter was born on 26 Jan 1857 in Marion Co., WV.
He died on 26 Apr 1937 in Marion Co., WV. He was married to Emma
Stanley on 30 Jan 1877 in Marion Co., WV. Emma Stanley was born
on 6 May 1852 in Marion Co., WV. She died on 9 Nov 1886 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of Jacob Bunner Carpenter and Emma Stanley were:

+331 i. Henderson T Carpenter.
+332 ii. Vista Carpenter.
+333 iii. Harry C. Carpenter.

He was married to Lovina DeMoss in 1888 in Marion Co., WV.
Lovina DeMoss was born on 31 Jan 1866 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 18 Jul 1921 in Marion Co., WV.
Children of Jacob Bunner Carpenter and Lovina DeMoss were:

334 i. Vesta Carpenter was born in Oct 1894.

Jacob Bunner Carpenter and Mabel Skinner Davis had no known children.

20TH GENERATION

298. Nancy Lula Carpenter was born on 1 Oct 1915. She died on 12 May 1989.
She was buried in Grandview Memorael Gardens.
She was married to Clyde L. Satterfield on 28 Mar 1937 in Blueville,
Taylor Co. WV. Clyde L. Satterfield was born on 10 Oct 1910 in
Taylor Co., WV. He died on 25 Mar 1995 in Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
He was buried in Memorial Gardens, Marion Co., WV.
Children of Nancy Lula Carpenter and Clyde L. Satterfield were:

391 i. Francis Thomas Satterfield.
392 ii. Clyde Edward Satterfield.
393 iii. Patricia Gay Satterfield.

299. Violet Altha Carpenter was born on 23 Jun 1917 in Taylor Co., WV.
She died on 9 Sep 1971 in Marion Co., WV.
She was buried in Rest Haven Memorial Gardens.
She was married to Jessie Milton Shroyer on 5 Jun 1937.
Jessie Milton Shroyer was born on 5 Jan 1905 in Mill Fall Run,
Marion Co., WV. He died on 28 Apr 1975 in Marion Co., WV.
He was buried in Rest Haven Memorial Gardens..
Children of Violet Altha Carpenter and Jessie Milton Shroyer were:

394 i. Lula Marie Shroyer.
395 ii. Barbara Ann Shroyer.
396 iii. Paul Milton Shroyer.
397 iv. Beulah Violet Shroyer.

300. Virgil David Carpenter was born on 29 Nov 1909.
He died on 2 Feb 1977 in Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
He was buried in Mt. Zion Cemetery, Marion Co., WV.
Lura Gladys Vincent was born on 6 Oct 1913 in Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
She died on 15 Oct 1983 in Monongalia Co., WV.
She was buried in Mt. Zion Cemetery, Marion Co., WV.
Children of Virgil David Carpenter and Lura Gladys Vincent were:

398 i. Encil Ray Carpenter.
399 ii. Nolan Carpenter.

301. Clyde Anson Carpenter was born on 9 Nov 1897 in Fairmont WV
He died on 5 May 1997 in Marion Co., WV. He was buried in
Pride Cemetery, Bunner Ridge, Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.

He was married to Bessie May Lake on 7 Apr 1917.
Bessie May Lake was born on 17 Apr 1894 in Bunner Ridge Marion Co.W.Va.
She died on 26 Dec 1969 in Marion Co., WV. She was buried in Pride
Cemetery, Bunner Ridge, Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
Children of Clyde Anson Carpenter and Bessie May Lake were:

400 i. Willis Willard Carpenter was born on 2 May 1918.
He died on 30 Aug 1977. He was buried in Pride Cemetery,
Bunner Ridge, Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
401 ii. Vivian May Carpenter.
402 iii. Wayman Marion Carpenter was born on 24 Nov 1921.
403 iv. Leslie Ray Carpenter was born on 20 Aug 1923.
He died on 16 Sep 1983. He was buried in Pride
Cemetery, Bunner Ridge, Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
404 v. Glen Norman Carpenter was born on 7 Jun 1925.
405 vi. Vonetta June Carpenter.
406 vii. Audra Vernena Carpenter.
407 viii. Herman David Carpenter was born on 18 Mar 1931.
408 ix. Wilda Lucille Carpenter.
409 x. Doris Arlene Carpenter.

302. Goldie Alice Carpenter was born on 23 Sep 1899 in Marion Co., WV.
She died on 12 Feb 1982 in Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
She was buried in Mt. Zion Cemetery, Marion Co., WV.
Earl Boyce was born in Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
He died in Fairmont, Marion Co., WV.
Children of Goldie Alice Carpenter and Earl Boyce were:

410 i. Ervin Earl Boyce.
411 ii. Norman Boyce.
412 iii. Amos Boyce.
413 iv. Robert Boyce.
414 v. Alma Boyce.
415 vi. Anna Lee Boyce.
416 vii. Willard Boyce.

Goldie Alice Carpenter and Vance Alltop had no known children.

Children of Goldie Alice Carpenter and George Travis were:

417 i. George Travis.

10/8/2012 at 10:42 AM

That's great info, thank you so much! Can you post the source for citation?

Does anyone have information that conflicts with this?

10/8/2012 at 11:23 AM

http://archive.org/stream/genealogicalhist00carp#page/n5/mode/2up names William "of Rehoboth" Carpenter (1605-1659) with wife Abigail (maiden name unknown) and father William Carpenter b. 1540 in Shalbourne Parish, Wiltshire. But it's an old source.

Citation:

A genealogical history of the Rehoboth branch of the Carpenter family in America, brought down from their English ancestor, John Carpenter, 1303, with many biographical notes of descendants and allied families.
By Amos B. Carpener. Published 1898 by Carpenter & Morehouse in Amherst, Mass . Written in English.

10/8/2012 at 11:35 AM

Here's a comment on the quality of the source shared above:

"This 900-plus page tome was remarkable for its day, but many corrections has been made in the genealogies it contains over the last century. The best compiled corrections to this work and related lines is in the "Carpenters' Encyclopedia of Carpenters 2009", data DVD format."

10/8/2012 at 11:59 AM

The most "modern" evidence of course is DNA testing. The Carpenter project is apparently active, successful and insightful.

Descendants of William Carpenter of Rehoboth is called Group 2, and is listed here: http://carpentercousins.com/generallineage.htm#reho

Private
10/8/2012 at 1:13 PM

Erica Howton could you do me a favor and run thru my path to William Carpenter, of Rehoboth if what this person says it may out dated and i may have to GULP! redo the whole line up

Private
10/8/2012 at 1:15 PM

Erica Howton and Carol Marie Fitzgerald is this correct? http://www.geni.com/path/Michael+Mccann+is+related+to+William+of+Re... according to the data carol posted it doesn't look right.. i might have to revaluate it entirely!

Private
10/8/2012 at 1:30 PM

also other questions emerge about this until cira1820 if my memory severes me correctly maine was considerd part of mass so when they say Bristol Co., ME for 11th generation do they mean bristol me co of linlcon or the one in ma forgot the county.. and then moved following birth?

10/8/2012 at 1:33 PM

Michael let's hold off testing the path until we get some of the posted information into profiles and their parents corrected.

There are "controversies" for the immigrant generation but for those directly below there should be some consensus based on the 3 sources: DNA project, 1898 book, and the compilation Carole was kind enough to share.

Would you able to find some of the profiles in her group and make sure they are properly connected in the tree? Perhaps working BOTTOM up as we did before? I have been cutting and pasting into the "about" as well - it's really helpful to do it that way, I've found.

If there's a problem profile, post the link. Otherwise we can take this opportunity to get the many William descendants properly placed.

10/8/2012 at 1:34 PM

In other words - document FIRST, link at a time.

Private
10/8/2012 at 1:38 PM

good idea.. Erica Howton i will put on my hardhat and get out my shovel.. heh heh..

Private
10/8/2012 at 1:40 PM

i just posted the link above to William "of Rehoboth" Carpenter will focus on that

10/8/2012 at 2:15 PM

The generations BELOW William of Rehoboth. For example, there are two versions of his son John with different dates and locations. We need to get that clarified. The one we're interested in is the father of Hope.

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10/8/2012 at 2:49 PM

yes realized that right after i typed it... this is the first i am hearing about two verisons of his son as my dirrect line is thru william not john.. i think but i will look into that.. and at this point i won't make any changes...

10/8/2012 at 4:56 PM

Erica - I apologize in advance for this lengthy response ... and you have probably already plowed the same territory, but thought I would give it a try anyway! There is no documentation that I can find to validate the spouse of William (1) Carpenter. I felt that going to the authority, Gene Zubrinsky, the Carpenter Family expert who has spent 25 years researching the line, would be the best course..so here it is!

There are two lines of Carpenters who came to America in the early 1600's:

Rehoboth Carpenters
1. William1 Carpenter was born in England about 1575 and lived for many years in the Wiltshire part of Shalbourne Parish. With son William2 and the latter's family, he sailed to Massachusetts on the Bevis in 1638. He died probably at Weymouth, Massachusetts Bay Colony, or Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony.
Only known child of William1 Carpenter:
i. William2 Carpenter, b. ca. 1605; m. Abigail Briant.
2. William2 Carpenter (William1) was born in England about 1605 and died at Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, on 7 February 1658[/9]. He married in the Berkshire part of Shalbourne Parish on 28 April 1625, Abigail Briant, baptized there on 27 May 1604 and buried at Rehoboth on 22 February 1686/7, daughter of John and Alice (______) Briant of Shalbourne. Both are buried in Old Rehoboth (Newman) Cemetery, in present-day Rumford, East Providence, Rhode Island.
Children of William2 and Abigail (Briant) Carpenter, i-v baptized at Shalbourne, vii-viii born at Weymouth:
i. John3 Carpenter, bp. 8 Oct. 1626; m. Hannah [Smith?].
ii. Abigail Carpenter, bp. 31 May 1629; m. (1) John Titus, (2) Jonah Palmer Sr.
iii. William Carpenter, bp. 22 Nov. 1631; m. (1) Priscilla Bennett, (2) Miriam Sale.
iv. Joseph Carpenter, bp. 6 April 1634; m. Margaret Sutton.
v. Samuel Carpenter, bp. 1 March 1636[/7], bur. Shalbourne 20 April 1637.
vi. Samuel Carpenter (again), b. ca. 1638; m. Sarah Redway.
vii. Hannah Carpenter, b. 3 2nd mo. [April] 1640; m. Joseph2 Carpenter (see below).
viii. Abiah Carpenter, b. 9 2nd mo. [April] 1643; m. Mary Redway.
Providence Carpenters
1. RichardA Carpenter was born in England, probably in or near the Wiltshire town and parish of Amesbury or the adjacent parish of Newton Ton(e)y, and is probably the man of that name who was buried in Amesbury on 21 September 1625. He is perhaps the Richard Carpenter who married at Newton Tony on 7 August 1603, Alice Knight.
Known children of RichardA Carpenter, both born probably at Amesbury. For additional information about child ii, see the RichardA Carpenter sketch, CHILDREN section. The birth order is uncertain:

i. William1 Carpenter, b. say 1610; m. Elizabeth Arnold.
ii. Frideswide Carpenter, bur. Amesbury 22 Nov. 1680; m. Nicholas Vincent.
2. William1 Carpenter (RichardA) was born in England, probably at Amesbury, Wiltshire, say 1610, and died at Providence (Pawtuxet section), Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, on 7 September 1685. He was probably the man registered as "Thomas" Carpenter of Amesbury, carpenter, on the passenger list of the James, which arrived at Boston on 3 June 1635. He married about 1637 at Providence (not by 1635, in England), Elizabeth Arnold, born at Ilchester, Somerset, England, on 23 November 1611, daughter of William1 and Christian (Peak) Arnold.
Children of William1 and Elizabeth (Arnold) Carpenter, all born in the township of Providence, at least iv-viii (perhaps as many as ii-viii) born at Pawtuxet. For additional information pertaining to children ii-viii, see the William1 Carpenter of Providence sketch, CHILDREN section. The birth order is slightly tentative:
i. Joseph2 Carpenter, b. ca. 1638 (aged 26 in 1664); m. Hannah Carpenter.
ii. Lydia Carpenter, b. say 1640; m. Benjamin Smith.
iii. Ephraim Carpenter, b. say 1642; m. (1) Susannah Harris, (2) Susannah (Wood) England, (3) Lydia _______.
iv. Priscilla Carpenter, b. say 1644; m. William Vincent.
v. Timothy Carpenter, b. say 1646; m. Hannah Burton.
vi. Silas Carpenter (twin?), b. ca. 1650-1651 (aged 24 in 1675); m. Sarah Arnold.
vii. Benjamin Carpenter (twin?), b. say 1650-1652; m. Mary Tillinghast.
viii. William Carpenter, b. probably by 2 Sept. 1653; unmarried.

There is also a 3rd line which stayed in England went to Holland and returned to England, but is not of interest here although it is in GENI (with lots of errors). That line is:

William "of Cobham" Carpenter (c.1585-??) married to Mary Batt (1603-1638) at:

Unknown Profile

The William you are interested in (I believe) is William Carpenter of Shalborne (1576-???) married to Alice Carpenter at:

William "of the Bevis" Carpenter

I have attached a document to the profile of William Carpenter of Shalborne that is a page from the Passenger List of the Bevis which shows this William Carpenter and his son William "of Rehobeth" Carpenter, Jr. (1605-1659) with wife Abigail as passengers.

I have also attached the following narrative from Gene Zubrinsky's, Carpenters Encyclopedia of Carpenter's, 2008 to William (1) profile and have attached one to his son William Jr. as well, but have included below for your edification. I believe he is best authority:

WILLIAM1 CARPENTER
OF NEWTOWN, SHALBOURNE, WILTSHIRE
(BEVIS, 1638)
Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, FASG
Ojai, California, 2008
Last revised 16 October 2010
Prepared for Carpenters’ Encyclopedia of Carpenters 2008 Update
WILLIAM1 CARPENTER was born in England about 1575 and was still living a few days before 2 May 1638; he died probably at Weymouth, Massachusetts Bay Colony, or Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony (see BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE, IMMIGRATION, and RESIDENCES
sections, below; TAG 70:193–94, 203). [While the foregoing genealogical
data is presented in Register style, the embedding, grouping, and severe abbreviating of source citations are conveniences that depart from it. Sources are cited in full in KEY TO SOURCE NOTES, at the end of this sketch. The format below is patterned loosely after that used by Robert Charles Anderson in his Great Migration series.]

BIRTH: William1 was of Newtown, parish of Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England, by 1608,
when he became a copyholder (semipermanent leaseholder) at Westcourt Manor (Westcourt Recs 7). Shalbourne, completely in Wiltshire since 1895, previously straddled the line separating Wiltshire and Berkshire, with Westcourt comprising the Wiltshire part of the parish (Shalbourne Map); the Hampshire border was/is about four miles away. It is likely that William was born in one of these three counties.
The record of William’s renewal of his Westcourt tenancy on 22 June 1614 gives his age as 40 (Westcourt Recs 7). The passenger list of the Bevis, the ship on which he left England, is dated 2 May 1638 and states William’s age as 62 (NEHGR 14:336; TAG 70:193, 203; see also IMMIGRATION, below). From these facts is calculated a birth year of about 1575. A William Carpenter was baptized in the parish of Great Coxwell, Berkshire (now in Oxfordshire), on 5 May 1576, son of Henry Carpenter (GCPaR). Evidence that this is more than coincidence has not been found. But since Great Coxwell is only about thirty road miles due north of Shalbourne, further research in the vicinity of the former place is warranted.
DEATH: The latest known record of William1 is the aforementioned Bevis passenger-list
entry of 2 May 1638. His namesake son, William2 Carpenter, settled at Weymouth probably in 1638 and certainly before 13 May 1640, when he was admitted a freeman there. That William1 was not made a freeman at the same time was perhaps because he haddied. It might, on the other hand, have been due to his modest station, when considered apart from that of his son (see TAG 14:336, 70:193, 195n13; EDUCATION/OFFICES,
below).
MARRIAGE: Despite claims to the contrary, the identity of William1’s wife (or wives)
is unknown. His having emigrated only three months after the death of Alice Carpenter,
who was buried at Shalbourne on 25 January 1637[/8], suggests that she had been his
wife (though not necessarily William2’s mother); it is possible, however, that she was an
unmarried sister or daughter (TAG 70:194–95).
A William Carpenter married at St. Thomas the Martyr, Salisbury, Wiltshire, 18 April
1605, Mary Bath (not Batt, as per various informal sources) (WiltPaR 5:22). Christopher
Batt, a tanner of [New] Sarum (i.e., Salisbury), Wiltshire, was one of the Carpenters’ fellow passengers on the Bevis. Records of the Batt family of Salisbury, however, indicate that he and a Mary Batt of appropriate age (baptized at St. Thomas 7 Aug. 1584, daughter of Richard and Agnes (Danyell) Batt) “would be no more than distant cousins” (NEHGR 14:336; Martin, citing NEHGR 51:181–88, 348–57, 52:44–51, 321–22). It has not been established that William1 Carpenter was the man of that name who married Mary Bath.
IMMIGRATION: William1, with son William2 and the latter’s family, embarked at
Southampton, Hampshire, on the Bevis. The preamble to the ship’s passenger list indicates that by 2 May 1638 “they [had been] some Dayes gone to sea” (NEHGR 14:336).
They landed probably at Boston (the point of all but a handful of Bay Colony arrivals) in
June or July 1638 (the average ocean crossing took five to eight weeks).
RESIDENCES: He was living at Newtown by 1 June 1608 and until at least about 18
September 13 Charles [1637]; on the latter date a new family assumed tenancy of the parcels previously leased by the Carpenters (Westcourt Recs 7). The last Carpenter record at Shalbourne is that of Alice Carpenter’s burial, in 1637/8 (see MARRIAGE, above). Although her place in the Carpenter family is uncertain, we may be fairly confident that the others were present in or near Shalbourne at this time (TAG 70:194–95).
Amos B. Carpenter’s claim that William1 (whom he inappropriately numbers as William2) resided in London prior to emigrating is completely baseless (see Carpenter [1898] 34, 38). As above, William was at Shalbourne by 1608. In 2004, John R. Carpenter of La Mesa, California, requested a search by Guildhall Library, London, of that city’s Carpenters’ Company freemen’s lists (begun in the sixteenth century) and of various catalogs; no reference to a William Carpenter was found.
Despite the Bevis passenger list’s description of William1 (and son William2) as “of Horwell”—that is, Wherwell, Hampshire (about 15 air miles south-southeast of Shalbourne)—the aforementioned Shalbourne records make it clear that he was at the former place no more than a few months, perhaps only a day or two (see William2 of Rehoboth sketch,
RESIDENCES).

Apparently based solely on the absence of any record of William1 in Massachusetts,
Amos Carpenter claims that William1 returned to England on the ship that brought him
(see Carpenter [1898] 38). There is no evidence of this, however, and no reason to suppose it. His having endured the rigors of the voyage to Massachusetts (assuming he completed it), it is doubtful that William1, an old man by the conditions and standards of the time, would have opted to face, unaccompanied, the physical demands of a return trip. And to what would he have returned? William2 was his eldest (perhaps only) son and heir. (This we infer from the inclusion of William Carpenter Jr. with his father in the
Westcourt Manor copy court roll beginning with the initial record of their tenancy.)
Where better for this father and grandfather to spend his last years than in the company of those with whom he had come? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence: considering his age (advanced), marital status (single), and position in his family (almost certainly subordinate to his son), it is not significant that William1 fails to appear in Massachusetts records as a freeholder or town officer, for example. And with deaths at this time being the vital event least-often recorded, it is unremarkable that no such record is found for him. (Also unrecorded is the birth, probably in late 1638, of his grandson Samuel3.)
OCCUPATION: The Bevis passenger list describes William1 as a carpenter (NEHGR
14:336). That his copyhold included not only a messuage (house and adjoining land) with a garden but also a small number of acres in nearby common fields indicates that he was also a husbandman (subsistence farmer) (see Westcourt 7; “Recommended Reading,” GMN16, no. 3).
EDUCATION/OFFICES: William “Crpentr,” church warden, signed with his mark a
glebe terrier (describing lands belonging to the Shalbourne vicarage) dated 6 June 1628
(SVGT). William2’s obvious literacy excludes him from consideration as the subscriber
(see William2 of Rehoboth sketch, EDUCATION). The only other man of that name found in Shalbourne records is William1.
CHILDREN: The only known child of William1 Carpenter is the son named with him in
his record of tenancy at Shalbourne Westcourt and with whom he emigrated: the eventual William2 Carpenter of Rehoboth (Westcourt Recs 7; NEHGR 14:336; see also William2 of Rehoboth sketch). The Carpenters’ Encyclopedia of Carpenters 2009 main database’s attribution to William1 of additional children, through alleged wife Mary “Batt” (see MARRIAGE, above), is baseless.
COMMENTS: The will of Robert Carpenter of Marden, Wiltshire, dated 12 January
1606[/7?] and proved 21 May 1607, names (among others) adult sons William and Richard.
It has been claimed that these brothers were William1 Carpenter (father of William2
of Rehoboth) and RichardA Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire (father of William1 of
Providence, R.I.). While it is not impossible that William1 of Shalbourne was the son of
Robert of Marden, evidence of it has not been found; it is unlikely that Richard of Amesbury was Robert’s son. Genetic testing of agnate descendants of William of Shalbourne and Richard of Amesbury has established with a high degree of probability that the two were in fact related but far more remotely than generally believed. For more-detailed discussions of these matters, see NEHGR 159 (2005):64–66, 67n63; William2 of Rehobothsketch, COMMENTS.
In Carpenters’ Encyclopedia of Carpenters 2001 (CECD 2001), compiler John R. Carpenter presents an extensive ancestry for the subject William1 Carpenter and RichardA Carpenter of Amesbury, beginning with the aforementioned Robert Carpenter of Marden and his widow, Elinor, as their parents. Most of this ancestry—back from Rev. Richard Carpenter of Herefordshire and Wiltshire (d. 1503)—has been proven invalid (NEHGR 159:65n53–66n53[contd.]); as above, the remainder is unsubstantiated and, particularly for the Amesbury man, dubious. Earlier versions of this ancestry, which differ from it for the first few generations (beginning with parents), are even more improbable than the CECD 2001 version (see, for example, Carpenter [1898] 1, 34). The ancestry of William1 Carpenter, including his parentage, is unknown (as is that of RichardA).
Amos Carpenter, the first to assert that RichardA Carpenter was William1s brother, further claims that AlexanderA Carpenter of Wrington, Somersetshire, and Leiden, Netherlands,
was another brother (Carpenter [1898] 34). There is absolutely no support for this.
A Robert Carpenter was among those who took the estate inventory of William Shefford
of Shalbourne in 1609 (Shefford Inv). Although it seems reasonable to suppose that he is related to William1 (perhaps a brother [born by 1688]), evidence linking them has not
been found. Robert is not a Rehoboth Carpenter forename.
A Wikipedia article about Culham, Oxfordshire, states that “[r]ecords from Culham Manor of the late 1500s to the early 1600s . . . show a William Carpenter senior and his son William Carpenter junior, who emigrated to Weymouth, Massachusetts, in 1638 and helped found Rehoboth, Massachusetts, in 1645 [sic]” (Wikipedia1). Another Wikipedia article, about the Rehoboth Carpenters (the same person is the main contributor to both), asserts that “[m]anor records from Culham . . . contain various references to a father-son William Carpenter whose activities conform to Shalbourne records. The Carpenters [of] Culham [were] a prosperous yeoman family . . . William Carpenter Sr. served as assessor of fines in the Culham Manor Court. Many pages of Latin records bearing his name are now in the Bodleian Library at Oxford. William Carpenter Sr. educated his eldest son Robert at Oxford for the church. Many of what were perhaps Robert’s books made there [sic] way to Massachusetts in the possession of Carpenter’s son William Carpenter Jr. (b. 1605)” (Wikipedia2). These passages reflect one of the most common types of error in genealogy: “right name, wrong man,” the merging of different persons of the same name into a single identity; in
this case, four are reduced to two. The author of the above-quoted statements ignores important evidence refuting his identification of the Carpenters of Shalbourne, Weymouth, and Rehoboth with those of Culham. Far from being the scholarly yeoman (land-owning farmer) who sat on a manorial court at Culham, William1 Carpenter of Shalbourne (35 miles distant) was an illiterate carpenter and husbandman (see OCCUPATION, EDUCATION/
OFFICES, above). And as such, he was in no position to send a son to Oxford.
(There is no evidence that the Robert Carpenter recorded at Shalbourne in 1609 was a
clergyman; in any case, he was too old to have been William1’s son [see above].) On 22 November 1636, moreover, William Carpenter of Culham was appointed to administer the estate of his son Thomas of London, whose will failed to name an executor (PCC Probate Acts 83). By this time, William1 Carpenter and his only known son, the eventual William2 of Rehoboth, had been living at Shalbourne for twenty-eight years! In summary, there is absolutely no basis for the claim that the two immigrant William Carpenters formerly of Shalbourne were identical to a Culham father and son of the same name—or that the two pairs of men were connected at all.
HISTORICAL BACKGROUND: See, for example, Virginia DeJohn Anderson, New
England’s Generation: The Great Migration and the Formation of Society and Culture in
the Seventeenth Century (New York, 1991; repr. 1992 [paperback]); Francis J. Bremer,
The Puritan Experiment: New England Society from Bradford to Edwards, rev. ed.
(Lebanon, N.H., 1995 [paperback]); John Chandler, Marlborough and Eastern Wiltshire
(Salisbury, England, 2001), and “Shalbourne Concise History,” online at www.wilt
shire.gov.uk/community/getconcise.php?id=199, a Wiltshire County Council – Wiltshire
Community History webpage; Shalbourne History Project, Shalbourne to the Millennium
(Shalbourne, England, 1999); Stephen Foster, The Long Argument: English Puritanism
and the Shaping of New England Culture, 1570–1700 (Chapel Hill, N.C., 1991; repr.
1996 [paperback]); Hugh Trevor-Roper, Archbishop Laud: 1573–1645 (London, 1940;
repr. 2000 [paperback]); Keith Wrightson and David Levine, Poverty and Piety in an
English Village: Terling, 1525–1700, 2nd ed. (Oxford, England, 1995 [paperback]).

KEY TO SOURCE NOTES:
Carpenter [1898] Amos B. Carpenter, A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth
Branch of the Carpenter Family in America [informal
title: Carpenter Memorial] (Amherst, Mass., 1898)
GCPaR Great Coxwell Parish Records (not paginated) [Family History
Library (FHL), Salt Lake City, film #88,267]
GMN Great Migration Newsletter, online at www.great
migration.org (subscription website; printed issues
available)
Martin David Kendall Martin, FASG, letter to Gene Zubrinsky, 16
March 1998
NEHGR The New England Historical and Genealogical Register,
vol. 1 (1847) through present
PCC Probate Acts John Matthews and George F. Matthews, Abstracts of Probate
Acts in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1635–
1639 (London, 1903); digital image online at http://
books.google.com
Shalbourne Map Parish of Shalbourne, from Andrews and Dury’s Map of
Wiltshire, 1810, online at www.wiltshire.gov.uk/
community/getcom2.php?id=199, a Wiltshire County
Council – Wiltshire Community History webpage
Shefford Inv William Shefford estate inventory, facsimile online at http://
history.wiltshire.gov.uk/wills/P5-1609_71_A1{TCL}.jpg,
a Wiltshire County Council – Wiltshire Archive Catalogue
webpage; abstract online at www.genuki.org.uk/
big/eng/BRKwills/wa10419.html, a GENUKI: UK & Ireland
Genealogy website maintained by Nick Hidden
(1998)
SVGT Shalbourne Vicarage Glebe Terrier, ref. D/5/10/2/8, Wiltshire
and Swindon Archives, Wiltshire and Swindon
History Centre, Chippenham (formerly Wiltshire and
Swindon Record Office, Trowbridge), England
TAG The American Genealogist, vol. 9 (1932) through present
Westcourt Recs Survey of Shalbourne Westcourt (c1610–1639/40), Savernake
Estate Collection, ref. 9/24/460, Wiltshire and Swindon
Archives
Wikipedia1 Wikipedia contributors, “Culham,” Wikipedia: The Free
Encyclopedia, online at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cul
ham (accessed 5/4/2009)
Wikipedia2 Wikipedia contributors, “Rehoboth Carpenter Family,” Wikipedia:
The Free Encyclopedia, online at http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehoboth_Carpenter_Family
(accessed 5/4/2009)
WiltPaR Wiltshire Parish Registers. Marriages, vol. 5, ed. W. P. W.
Phillimore, Edmund Nevill, and John Sadler (London,
1907) [FHL film #496,691, item 4]
Thanks to Jim Bullock (Littleton, Colo.), John R. Carpenter (La Mesa, Calif.), Terry L. Carpenter
(Germantown, Md.), and John F. Chandler (Harvard, Mass.) for reviewing the original sketch.
Gene Zubrinsky (GeneZub@aol.com) has contributed many articles, including four Carpenter pieces, to the leading genealogical journals and local-history magazines.

WILLIAM2 CARPENTER (WILLIAM1)
OF REHOBOTH, MASSACHUSETTS
Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, FASG
Ojai, California, 2008
Last revised 18 May 2011
Prepared for Carpenters’ Encyclopedia of Carpenters 2008 Update
WILLIAM2 CARPENTER (William1) was born in England about 1605 and died at Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony (that part now Rumford, East Providence, Rhode Island), on 7
February 1658[/9]. He married in the parish of Shalbourne, Berkshire, England, on 28
April 1625, ABIGAIL BRIANT, baptized there on 27 May 1604 and buried at Rehoboth on
22 February 1686/7, daughter of John and Alice (______) Briant of Shalbourne. Both are buried in Old Rehoboth (Newman) Cemetery, Rumford (TAG 70:193–94, 203; RI Cems 63; see also BIRTH, DEATH, BURIAL, MARRIAGE, and COMMENTS sections, below).
[While the foregoing genealogical data is presented in Register style, the embedding,
grouping, and severe abbreviating of source citations are conveniences that depart from
it. Sources are cited in full in KEY TO SOURCE NOTES, at the end of this sketch. The
format below is patterned loosely after that used by Robert Charles Anderson in his Great Migration series.]
BIRTH: The earliest known record of William2 and his family of origin is that of their
tenancy at Westcourt Manor, in the Wiltshire part of Shalbourne, beginning in 1608 (see
RESIDENCES, below). The line separating Wiltshire and Berkshire bisected the parish,
and the Hampshire border was/is only about four miles distant; it is therefore likely that
he was born in one of these three counties.
William2’s approximate birth year is calculated from his age, 33, as reported a few days
before 2 May 1638 and recorded on that date in the passenger list of the Bevis, on which ship he and his family sailed to Massachusetts (TAG 70:193–94, 203; see also IMMIGRATION, below). William is named with his father in the aforementioned 1608 Westcourt Manor record (see RESIDENCES, below). The copyhold was reaffirmed in 1614 by cross-outs and insertions in the original, 1608 record, augmented by a margin note.
Presumably in 1621, when the copy court roll was compared to the manorial court book,
William2’s age, 16, was inserted in the original record in a space theretofore left blank
(Westcourt Recs 7; Crookston). No record of his specific date of birth or baptism has
been found, and any such date appearing in the secondary literature is a fabrication.
DEATH: Original Rehoboth vital records give Willliam2’s date of death as 7 February
1658. In May of that year, however, William Carpenter Sr. was chosen Rehoboth waywarden, and on 22 June 1658, he was one of forty-nine proprietors (also including William Jr.) who drew lots for meadows lying on the north side of the town (RTM 1:31v/74, 1:58r/127; RPropR 4A:7). His year of death is therefore presented in the first paragraph as 1658[/9], indicating that the original death-record date is Old Style (year beginning 25 March). For details concerning Old and New Style dating and the proper treatment (then and now) of pre-1752 dates between 1 January and 24 March, see Donald Lines Jacobus, Genealogy as Pastime and Profession, 2nd ed. (Baltimore, 1968; repr. 1999 [paperback]), 109–13; “A Member Responds to ‘Ask a Librarian’ Question,” NEHGS eNews 6, no. 6, whole no. 152 (6 February 2004), online at www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/ eNews_eNews_152.asp; Mike Spathaky, “Old Style and New Style Dates and the Change to the Gregorian Calendar: A Summary for Genealogists,” online at www.genfair.com/ dates.htm.
BURIAL: William2’s grave marker is an ordinary field stone inscribed with the initials
“WC” and “1658” chiseled below it; nearby are wife Abigail’s headstone (“AC”) and
footstone (“1686”) (Early Rehoboth 4:32, 34–35). An image of the former is available
online at www.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/John-W-Carpenter/PHOTO/0001photo.html.
MARRIAGE: William and Abigail’s marriage record (only Bishops’ Transcripts of Shalbourne parish records survive for this period) has her surname as Briante (Shalbourne ParR; TAG 70:194). The five remaining Shalbourne church records mentioning Abigail’s family (including her baptismal record) spell the name Briant (Shalbourne ParR). Her father’s will, however (including his signature), has it as Bryan (PCC). St. Michael and All Angels, the parish church where the couple married, is situated in what was then the Berkshire part of Shalbourne. The church was nevertheless under the jurisdiction of the dean and chapter of the cathedral church at New Sarum (Salisbury), Wiltshire (TAG 70:194, 194n5).
Some sources give wife Abigail’s maiden name as Bennett or Searles. The first instance, however (prompted by the maiden name of her son William3 Carpenter’s first wife, Priscilla Bennett), represents unwarranted linkage to a Bennett family of Sway, Hampshire.
The second reflects apparent confusion with the maiden name of William3’s second
wife, Miriam Sale(s) (TAG 70:194n9, 204; see also Second Boat 1:15).
IMMIGRATION: William2, his wife, four children, and father embarked at Southampton,
Hampshire, on the Bevis. The preamble to the ship’s passenger list, dated 2 May
1638, indicates that “they [had been] some Dayes gone to sea” (NEHGR 14:336). They
landed probably at Boston (the point of all but a handful of Bay Colony arrivals) in June
or July 1638 (the average ocean crossing took five to eight weeks).
RESIDENCES: William Carpenter “iunr” was about three years old when his father and
he were first recorded as copyholders at Newtown, in the Wiltshire part of Shalbourne;
their tenancy began on 1 June 1608. (The inclusion of William1’s presumably eldest
[perhaps only] son and his sole heir [according to the law of primogeniture] gave the
Carpenter copyhold potential continuity beyond the father’s lifetime.) He remained at
Newtown until at least September 1637, if not January 1637/8 or later (Westcourt Recs 7; see also William1 of Shalbourne sketch, BIRTH, MARRIAGE, and RESIDENCES).
The Bevis passenger list describes William2 and his father as “of Horwell,” that is, Whorwell (now Wherwell), in Horwell Hundred, Hampshire, about 15 map miles south-southeast of Shalbourne. Whorwell/Wherwell, which had a tradition of religious dissent—at least two of its vicars, Stephen Bachiler (1587–1605) and probable brother-in-law John Bate (1605–1633), were nonconformists—lies on a straight line from Shalbourne to the Bevis’s port of departure, at Southampton. (Another Bevis passenger in 1638 was Richard Dummer, who, with kinsman Bachiler, had been a partner in the Plough Company, which had recruited dissenters for migration to New England in 1631 and 1632.) It is clear from the chronology of Carpenter records at Shalbourne that the family was at Wherwell for a few months at most. It is indeed possible that they paused there only long enough to obtain from sympathetic authorities the certificates of conformity (one for each man) that customs officials would require for the Carpenters to leave England and from which the residence recorded for them on the passenger list was probably copied (TAG 70:193–94, 195n14; NEHGR 14:336; Old Hampshire Maps; see also “Focus on the Planter,” GMN 15, no. 4).
William2 was living at Weymouth by 1640, having probably settled there soon after arriving in Massachusetts, in 1638 (see FREEMAN and CHILDREN sections, below; Weymouth Hist 1:197–98). On 10 1st month [March] 1644, he was among fifty-eight original Rehoboth proprietors who drew lots for the “first Division in the Neck” (RTM 1:6; RPropR 4A:5). (There is no record of home-lot grants, which undoubtedly had already been made.)
That the earliest Rehoboth proprietors’ meetings were held at Weymouth in late 1643
suggests that actual settlement of Rehoboth did not begin until 1644 (see RTM 1:27,
[29?], 31; Rehoboth Hist 24–25, 55). Amos B. Carpenter’s statement that William Carpenter was admitted an inhabitant of Rehoboth on 28 March 1645 has no documentary support (see Carpenter [1898] 38). There is no town record of that date, and no explicit admissions are recorded during this period (only the occasional grant of a home lot). It would have been superfluous, moreover, to admit as an inhabitant an original proprietor, to whom several lots had already been granted.
OCCUPATION: House-carpenter/joiner and planter. The Bevis passenger list describes
him as a carpenter, and his estate inventory contains many house-carpenter’s tools (NEHGR 14:336; WILL/ESTATE, below).
FREEMAN: Weymouth, 13 May 1640 (TAG 70:193); Rehoboth, 4 June 1645 (PCR 2:84).

EDUCATION: William2’s will mentions many books, including “technical religious works
of the time, Latin classics, Greek and Hebrew grammars, biblical concordances [and]
some legal works” (MD 14:231–33; Colonial Families 2:553). Given his father’s apparent illiteracy and both men’s modest station in England, it is not surprising that William2 fails to appear in Oxford or Cambridge matriculation records; he was perhaps tutored by a local clergyman (see William1 of Shalbourne sketch, OCCUPATION, EDUCATION/
OFFICES; OCCUPATION, above).
OFFICES: Weymouth: deputy to Massachusetts Bay Colony General Court, 1641, 1643; constable, 1641. Rehoboth: deputy to Plymouth Colony General Court, 1645, 1656; townsman (councilman/selectman), 1645, 1647, 1648, 1653, 1655[/6]; one of six to hear land-allotment grievances, 1645; grand juror, 1646; fence-viewer, 1646, 1647; surveying activity for the town, 1649 (perhaps other years); constable, 1654; surveyor (overseer) of highways (way warden) 1654, 1658 (MBCR 1:313, 318–19, 2:33; PCR 2:85, 102, 3:48–50, 99; Rehoboth Hist 32–33, 36, 38, 39, 40–41, 44–45, 46, 168, 171; RTM 1:41r/93, 58r/127).
Perhaps the most repeated assertion as to the offices occupied by William2 Carpenter is that he was Rehoboth’s first proprietors’ and town clerk. Amos Carpenter states that “[a]t a proprietors’ meeting held in Weymouth before the emigration to Rehoboth, the latter part of the year 1643, William Carpenter was chosen Proprietors’ clerk. . . . He served as Proprietors’ and Town Clerk from 1643 until 1649” (Carpenter [1898] 39). At the bottom of the same page, author Carpenter presents a mistake-ridden transcription of a 1644 Rehoboth town order establishing wage rates for common labor. Following this (on a new line and near the right margin) is the phrase “WILLIAM CARPENTER, clerk.” It thus appears that William2 identified himself as the one who, as town clerk, had entered the record in the town book. The original record, however, is followed by no such indication of the clerk’s identity (RTM 1:7). Nothing but a blank space separates it from the next, unrelated record. Neither does William2 Carpenter’s name appear in the records of the proprietors’ meetings held at Weymouth in late 1643, nor does it appear thereafter in connection with a clerkship of any kind (RTM 1:27, [29?], 31; Rehoboth Hist 24–25, 55).
The claim that William2 was Rehoboth town clerk was first made in 1836 by Leonard
Bliss: “No Town Clerk is mentioned by name in the town records till the year 1651
[emphasis added], when Peter Hunt was chosen to the office. But previous to this date the records appear to have been written by the same hand; and it appears from various returns made by the town clerk and on record at Plymouth, that the first who filled that office in Rehoboth was William Carpenter, and that he retained it from the date of the
commencement of the town records in October, 1643 till 1649, when Mr. Hunt was
probably chosen” (Rehoboth Hist 171). This writer, though among the many who have
repeated Bliss’s conclusion (see TAG 70:196), has recently discovered it to be erroneous.
Almost all Rehoboth records made from 1643 to mid-1649 are written in a single, distinctive hand. During this period, however, only one return from the Rehoboth town clerk is entered in Plymouth Colony records: “a Record of Land pchased from The towne of Rehoboth with an agreement of what other lands are to be aded [sic] for John Browne,” dated 20 10th month [December] 1645 and recorded at Plymouth in 1649 (day/month not given). At the end of the colony copy is the Rehoboth town clerk's certification: “p[er] me Edward Smith Towne Clarke” (PCR 12:177–78; PCLR 1:2:293). The original town record (dated 29 10th mo. 1645) is written in the same hand as virtually all other Rehoboth records of this period (RTM 1:71).
On 3 5th month [July] 1644, thirty Rehoboth inhabitants (out of fifty-eight original proprietors) entered into a covenant, agreeing to subject themselves to the authority of an elected town council (Rehoboth Hist 27–28). (That William Carpenter was not among the subscribers suggests that he may have been away, perhaps moving his family from Weymouth.)
Fortunately, the compact is incorporated into Rehoboth town-meeting records
with the original signatures, of which the second is that of the aforementioned Edward
Smith (RTM 1:3). The rendering of Smith’s full name introducing a 1645 list of his land
holdings matches his signature, as do other instances of the letters of his signature that
occur in this record (RTM 1:22r/55). The land-possessions record, in turn, is in the same
hand as practically all other Rehoboth records dated between 24 8th month [October]
1643 (at “Weimoth”) and 1 4th month [June] 1649 (RTM 1:3–41r/93 passim).
The Rehoboth town (and proprietors’) clerk from 1643 to 1649 was clearly Edward
Smith and not William2 Carpenter. (Smith was of Weymouth by 1642, Rehoboth in 1644, and Newport, R.I., by 1653; the latest known Rehoboth record in which he appears is dated in December 1650. He was at least thrice a Rehoboth townsman [town councilman] and while at Newport served several terms each as deputy and general assistant to the Rhode Island General Assembly [Austin 380; Rehoboth Hist 29, 32, 39, 42].) Bliss’s aforementioned reference to the “various returns” of Rehoboth records copied into Plymouth Colony records that bear the name of William Carpenter undoubtedly reflects confusion with our subject’s son William3, who, as Rehoboth town clerk almost continuously from 1668 to 1702/3, certified many lists of Rehoboth vital records forwarded annually to Plymouth (see William3 sketch, OFFICES; PCR 8:52–88 passim).
Less often repeated but nevertheless persistent is the claim by Amos Carpenter (whose
volume about the Rehoboth Carpenters contains many genealogical and biographical
errors) that William2 was commissioned a captain by the authorities at Boston “about
1642” (Carpenter [1898] 42–43); another source has the commission coming from the
Essex court (see Colonial Families 2:552). The date’s lack of precision is consistent with
the fact that evidence of such an appointment is not found in the records of either
Massachusetts Bay Colony or the Essex Quarterly Court (the latter lacked the authority
for such an act). If a William Carpenter were to have been made a captain about this time,
it would have been William1 of Pawtuxet, Rhode Island (d. 1685). (Pawtuxet—not to be
confused with Pawtucket—was then part of Providence Plantation and is now in Cranston. Our subject, the eventual William2 of Rehoboth, was then of Weymouth.) In September 1642, Pawtuxet inhabitants—“Willi: Arnold, Rob: Coale, Willi: Carpenter, & Bened: Arnold, his company” (not a militia company but the remainder of Pawtuxet residents)— put themselves and their lands (on both Providence and Warwick sides of the Pawtuxet River) under Massachusetts Bay Colony authority to fend off the encroachments of Samuel Gorton and his followers (MBCR 2:26–27). Most of the alleged interlopers were arrested by Massachusetts troops under Captain George Cooke in early October 1643. On the twentieth of that month, the Bay Colony General Court commissioned Carpenter and five other Pawtuxet men to seize and return to Boston certain of Gorton’s people who had not already been gathered up; no military ranks were assigned or mentioned (Samuel Gorton 48–50, 68, 109; MacDonough–Hackstaff 299–300 [facsimile of original commission opposite 299]). No known record of William2 of Rehoboth (or William1 of Pawtuxet)
includes a military title of any kind. It is therefore inappropriate to use the title Captain
(as some do) to distinguish William2 of Rehoboth from his father, William1, or his son
William3.
WILL/ESTATE: William2’s will is dated “the 10th month [December] the 10th day of
the month” (year not given—perhaps as early as 1656, no later than 1658) and was
proved on 21 April 1659 (TAG 70:196, 199n45). His extensive estate inventory, taken on
21 February 1658[/9], values his Rehoboth and Pawtuxet lands at £180 and £60, respectively.
(The Pawtuxet property was in northern Warwick, R.I., across the Pawtuxet River
from the Providence section of the same name. “[T]he Island” mentioned several times in the will was not a location in the Pawtuxet River [see Carpenter [1898] 41] but was
simply short for Rhode Island.) His personal estate contained many carpenter’s implements, including a lathe and turning tools; various types and sizes of saws and planes; jointers, spokeshaves, drawing knives, chisels, adzes, gouges, a vise, and glue. The value of his entire estate is not given but amounts to £644 19s. 10d. when all items are totaled (see PCPR 2:1:80–90A). (About 1643, William’s estate was calculated at £254 10s.
[RPropR 1:1–2]. Of that amount, £108 was not actual wealth but simply reflected his
having a family of nine. Land was allotted “according to person and Estate,” and “one
person [was] valued at Twelve pounds Sterling in Division of Lands” [RPropR 4A:3;
RTM 1:31].) For the most accurate transcription of the will by far (only slightly
abridged), see MD 14(1912):231–33; for analysis of important passages, see TAG 70
(1995):195–200 and NEHGR 159(2005):64.
CHILDREN: Numbers i–v baptized at Shalbourne, vii–viii born at Weymouth (TAG 70:
194, 203–4). For details and source citations, see the respective sketches of those listed below
(except no. v).
i. JOHN3 CARPENTER, bp. 8 Oct. 1626; m. HANNAH SMITH.
ii. ABIGAIL CARPENTER, bp. 31 May 1629; m. (1) JOHN TITUS, (2) JONAH PALMER SR.
iii. WILLIAM CARPENTER, bp. 22 Nov. 1631; m. (1) PRISCILLA BENNETT, (2) MIRIAM SALE.
iv. JOSEPH CARPENTER, bp. 6 April 1634; m. MARGARET SUTTON.
v. SAMUEL CARPENTER, bp. 1 March 1636[/7], bur. Shalbourne 20 April 1637 (TAG 70:
194, 196, 204).
vi. SAMUEL CARPENTER (again), b. ca. 1638; m. SARAH REDWAY.
vii. HANNAH CARPENTER, b. 3 2nd mo. [April] 1640; m. JOSEPH2 CARPENTER (William1 of
Providence).
viii. ABIAH CARPENTER, b. 9 2nd mo. [April] 1643; m. MARY REDWAY.
COMMENTS: The record of William2 Carpenter’s participation with fifty-seven others
in a division of woodland is dated at the upper edge of a disintegrating page whose filmed image shows only the number of the day (RTM 1:25). A 1731 transcription has the date as 31 __ month 1643, whereas Bliss’s History of Rehoboth (1836) has it as 31 4th month
[June] 1644, as does Arnold’s Vital Record of Rehoboth (1897) (RPropR 4A:3–4; Rehoboth
Hist, 27; RVR [pub] 911). Thirty-one and June (a thirty-day month) are of course
incompatible, and the year stated in the latter two sources conflicts with that in the first
one. In the late 1940s, the original record still showed the month, but it was so faded as to appear to the naked eye as a blank space (as it apparently had even in 1731). Using magnification, Richard Bowen concluded that the month appeared to be written as the number 5, representing the Old Style month of July (see Early Rehoboth, 4:3–4). Apparently, however, no one paid much attention to the number of the day in the original record. After examining it carefully and comparing it with other, contemporaneous Rehoboth records in the same hand, this writer has concluded that the day is written as 3th, with the slightly elevated, uncrossed t giving the appearance of a 1. (Though written in a different hand, the first volume of Rehoboth vital records is full of dates in which ordinally numbered days that one expects to end in st, nd/d, or rd/d end instead in th: 1th, 3th, 22th, 23th, and 31th, for example.) While this restores June as a possibility, the month and year nevertheless remain uncertain: Is the former June or July? Is the latter 1643 or 1644? The best that can be said is that since the earliest Rehoboth proprietors’ meetings were held at Weymouth in late 1643 (see RESIDENCES, par. 3, above), it is likely that the record in question was made in mid-1644.
It is often said (though not by reliable sources) that William2 Carpenter of Rehoboth was
a first cousin of William1 Carpenter of Providence (son of RichardA Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire) and also of the daughters of AlexanderA Carpenter of Wrington, Somersetshire, and Leiden, Netherlands, four of whom came to Plymouth. This derives from Amos Carpenter’s unsupported claim that William1 (Bevis, 1638), RichardA, and AlexanderA Carpenter were brothers (see Carpenter [1898] 34; William1 of Shalbourne sketch,
COMMENTS). No evidence has been found even hinting at a link between the Wrington
Carpenters, on the one hand, and either of the other two aforementioned families, on the other; a connection is highly improbable. Traditional genealogical research methods provide good reasons to doubt also that Rehoboth William and Providence William were
closely related (see NEHGR 159:64–66, 67n63). Results of recent genetic testing coordinated by the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project support this conclusion: Based on a number of 67-marker tests, “we can state with 95% confidence that the most recent
common ancestor of the two groups [descendants of the Providence and Rehoboth Carpenters, respectively] was more than 2 generations before the immigrants and less than about 20. Therefore, the DNA testing has very nearly ruled out the often-repeated claim that the Williams were first cousins. The most likely estimate is about 7 generations, but that is a very rough estimate, and the 95% confidence interval is a more reasonable description of what the DNA is telling us” (Carpenter Cousins).
Clerical errors in and misinterpretation of original Weymouth vital records cause that
town’s published vital-records volume to attribute to William2 a son Abraham and to
identify him as the twin of William2’s son Abiah. Amos Carpenter correctly concludes
that Abraham did not exist but nevertheless retains the idea that Abiah had a twin—his
sister Abigail (see Carpenter [1898] 46). It has since been established, however, that she was several years older than Abiah. There was neither an Abraham nor a multiple birth in this family (TAG 70:200–3).
Occasionally, a researcher includes in the list of William2’s children a son Ephraim. The
earliest Ephraim among Rehoboth Carpenters, however, was the son (1681–1743) of William3 and Miriam (Sale) Carpenter (RVR 1:9, 2:250; William3 sketch, CHILDREN).
An 1847 genealogical-journal item states the following: “CARPENTER, WILLIAM, Hingham, 1641, witnessed, and seems to have drawn the deed of a tract of land there from the Indians, ‘to John Tower the elder.’ His autograph, and the instrument to which it is attached, are a most elegant specimen of the chirography of that age” (NEHGR 1:137; see also 139 [deed dated 17 June 1641 (sic), endorsed in 1662/3]). Amos Carpenter quotes this passage without elaboration but with the implication that the handwriting is William2 Carpenter’s (see Carpenter [1898] 39). His quotation is inaccurate in several respects, including his substituting Weymouth for Hingham. But more important, the original statement is itself flawed: while John Tower was of Hingham (hence the inference that Carpenter was also), the deed describes land in Rhode Island (probably in present-day Scituate, Providence County) and is dated not in 1641 but 1661; it is witnessed by Joseph Peck Sr. (Rehoboth), Nathaniel Baker (Hingham), and William Carpenter (Tower Gen 28–29). Based on the foregoing facts—and knowing that William2 had died in 1658/9, and that his namesake son, who had excellent handwriting, often signed his name with great flourishes—we conclude that the creator of this “elegant specimen of . . . chirography” was William3 Carpenter, who became Rehoboth town clerk in 1668 (see William3 sketch, OFFICES).
The only extant document known to contain William2 Carpenter’s handwriting (discovered by this writer in the mid to late 1990s) is his transcription of a “memorandom,” dated 14 10th month [December] 1653, between the Indians of Pawtuxet, on the one hand, and Robert Coles, William Carpenter, and Richard Chasmore, all of Pawtuxet, and William Carpenter of Rehoboth, on the other (see Indian Deed). (William Carpenter of Pawtuxet [Providence] was the immigrant from Amesbury, Wiltshire, whose son Joseph married, a few years later, Hannah Carpenter, daughter of William2 of Rehoboth [see CHILDREN, no. vii, above; also this section, par. 1]. Coles and Chasmore lived across the river, in the part of Pawtuxet in Warwick.) In return for twelve pounds and four shillings, the Indians are to build and maintain a fence to keep the Englishmen’s animals (grazing on adjacent land) out of their corn fields in Pawtuxet (Warwick); the planters will not bear the costs of damage from subsequent incursions. Appended to this agreement, in the same hand, is the following statement: “These presents is a true Coppie of the grant and deed that was made by the Indians above said to the parties above said the which grant and deed is in the hand and Custodie of mee William Carpenter of Rehoboth And this presents I make and assigne over unto William Carpenter of pautuxett for his ashourance and to satisfye all men whome it may Consearne and is made verbatom with the grante deed In witness where of I doe sett my hand heare unto [signed] William Carpenter.”
Following this statement, in another hand, is a note: “This grant deed was Recorded
in the towne Reccordes of warwicke in the 64th page of the booke of Land Evidences p[er] mee John Potter Clearke.” Presumably, it was William1 Carpenter of Providence or one of his sons who, belatedly, took this document to the Warwick town clerk for recording, which was done immediately below a deed dated in 1684 (see WarLE 1:64–65).
The will of John “Bryan” the elder of Newtown, parish of Shalbourne, grocer—dated 11
July 164[torn] and proved 20 June 1643—mentions (in order of appearance) son John’s
daughters Mary (eldest), Lucie (youngest), and Dorothie (under 21; “if shee turne
protestant”); son Joseph’s son Edmund (under 24); daughter Elizabeth Tubbe’s sons John and Nathaniel (both under 24); daughter Elizabeth Tubbe; William Carpenter (under 24), son of William Carpenter; sons John and Joseph (primary beneficiary and, if necessary, successor executor); godson Jonathan Pearse alias Moone; goddaughter Mary Webbe; the poor of Shalbourne and Chilton; wife Alice (executrix); overseers Mr. Beniamine Some (“my pastor”) and Mr. Edmund Halford; and witnesses Edmund Halford and GeffreyPlatt (PCC).
HISTORICAL BACKGROUND: See, for example, Leonard Bliss Jr., The History of
Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts (Boston, 1836); Richard LeBaron Bowen, Early
Rehoboth: Documented Historical Studies of Families and Events in This Plymouth
Colony Township, 4 vols. (Rehoboth, 1945–1950); John Demos, A Little Commonwealth:
Family Life in Plymouth Colony, 2nd ed. (New York, 1999 [paperback]); Eugene Aubrey
Stratton, Plymouth Colony: Its History & People, 1620–1691 (Salt Lake City, 1986
[paperback]); Hugh Trevor-Roper, Archbishop Laud: 1573–1645 (London, 1940; repr.
2000 [paperback]); Keith Wrightson and David Levine, Poverty and Piety in an English
Village: Terling, 1525–1700, 2nd ed. (Oxford, England, 1995 [paperback]).
KEY TO SOURCE NOTES:
Austin John Osborne Austin, The Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode
Island, rev. ed. (Baltimore, 1969)
Carpenter [1898] Amos B. Carpenter, A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth
Branch of the Carpenter Family in America [informal
title: Carpenter Memorial] (Amherst, Mass., 1898)
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Carpenter Cousins Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project website, maintained by
John F. Chandler (13 March 2008 update); see discussion
of Carpenter descendant groups 2 (Providence) and
3 (Rehoboth)
Colonial Families Herbert F. Seversmith, Colonial Families of Long Island,
New York and Connecticut, 5 vols. (Washington, D.C.,
1939–1958)
Crookston E-mails, dated in Aug. and Sept. 2007, to Gene Zubrinsky
from Andrew Crookston (andrewcrookston@
wiltshire.gov.uk), Archivist, Wiltshire and Swindon
Archives, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre,
Chippenham (formerly Wiltshire and Swindon Record
Office, Trowbridge), England
Early Rehoboth Richard LeBaron Bowen, Early Rehoboth: Documented
Historical Studies of Families and Events in This Plymouth
Colony Township, 4 vols. (Rehoboth, Mass., 1945–
1950)
GMN Great Migration Newsletter, online at www.great
migration.org (subscription website; printed issues
available)
Indian Deed Pawtuxet Indians’ memorandum/deed to local yeomen (transcribed
by William2 Carpenter of Rehoboth), Rhode
Island Historical Society Manuscripts Collection, MSS
9003, vol. 5, p. 5, Rhode Island Historical Society;
digital image online at http://members.cox.net/johnrcar
penter/Deed%20in%20hand%20of%20William
%20Carpenter2%20of%20Rehoboth.jpg
MacDonough–Hackstaff Rodney MacDonough, The MacDonough–Hackstaff Ancestry
(Boston, 1901)
MBCR Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts
Bay in New England, 1628–1886, ed. Nathaniel B.
Shurtleff, 5 vols. in 6 (Boston, 1853–1854)
MD The Mayflower Descendant, vol. 1 through present (1899–
1937, 1985–)
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NEHGR The New England Historical and Genealogical Register,
vol. 1 (1847) through present
Old Hampshire Maps “Old Hampshire Mapped,” online at www.geog.port.ac.uk/
webmap/hantsmap/hantsmap/hantsmap.htm (select “John
Speed’s map of Hampshire . . . , 1611” or “John Blaeu’s
map of Hampshire, 1645” → Index sheet to part of the
map → SU44; also either map → Gazetteer, in Hundreds
→ Horwell Hundred)
PCC Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, The National
Archives, PROB 10/639/11:19–20 (John Bryan
will [digital image])
PCLR Plymouth Colony Deeds, vol. 1 [Family History Library
(FHL), Salt Lake City, film #567,788]
PCPR Plymouth Colony Probate Records [Wills and Inventories,
1633–1686], vols. 1–4 [FHL film #567,794]
PCR Records of the Colony of New Plymouth in New England,
ed. Nathaniel B. Shurtleff and David Pulsifer, 12 vols.
in 10 (Boston, 1855–1861)
Rehoboth Hist Leonard Bliss Jr., The History of Rehoboth, Bristol County,
Massachusetts (Boston, 1836)
RI Cems The Rhode Island Historical Cemeteries Transcription Project
Master Index, online at www.rootsweb.com/~rigen
web/cemetery
RPropR Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Proprietors’ Records, vols. 1–4
[FHL film #550,004], 4A–5 [FHL film #550,005]
RTM Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Town Meetings (and Vital Records),
1644–1673 [FHL film #562,558 (uncataloged),
item 4]
RVR Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Vital Records vol. 1 [FHL film
#562,559 (personal copy; no longer cataloged), item 3],
vols. 2–3 [FHL #562,558 (old loan copy; no longer
cataloged), items 5–6]
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RVR[pub] James N. Arnold, Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642–1896
(Providence, 1897)
Samuel Gorton Adelos Gorton, The Life and Times of Samuel Gorton (Philadelphia,
1907)
Second Boat The Second Boat, vols. 1–7 (Machias, Maine, 1980–1986)
Shalbourne ParR Shalbourne Parish Records (Bishops’ Transcripts), bundle 1
and unsorted box, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre,
Chippenham, England
TAG The American Genealogist, vol. 9 (1932) through present
Tower Gen Charlemagne Tower, Tower Genealogy: An Account of the
Descendants of John Tower, of Hingham, Mass. (Cambridge,
Mass., 1891)
WarLE Warwick, Rhode Island, Land Evidences, 1669–1711 [FHL
film #22,500]
Westcourt Recs Survey of Shalbourne Westcourt (c1610–1639/40), Savernake
Estate Collection, ref. 9/24/460, Wiltshire and Swindon
Archives, Chippenham, England
Weymouth Hist George Walter Chamberlain, History of Weymouth, Massachusetts,
4 vols. (Boston, 1923)
Thanks to Jim Bullock (Littleton, Colo.), John R. Carpenter (La Mesa, Calif.), Terry L. Carpenter
(Germantown, Md.), and John F. Chandler (Harvard, Mass.) for reviewing the original sketch.

10/8/2012 at 5:22 PM

Thank you do much Jim. I find it pretty authoritative, don't you? So it's a matter of organizing the information and attaching it in appropriate "chunks" to the individual profiles. I'll put the PDF in the project Repository for the Carpenter Family project.

The question at hand for manager comments - and this profile has many managers - is how to show the wife in Geni.

To extract:

MARRIAGE: Despite claims to the contrary, the identity of William1’s wife (or wives) is unknown. His having emigrated only three months after the death of Alice Carpenter, who was buried at Shalbourne on 25 January 1637[/8], suggests that she had been his wife (though not necessarily William2’s mother); it is possible, however, that she was an unmarried sister or daughter (TAG 70:194–95).

Private
10/8/2012 at 5:44 PM

ok since jim has spoken i guess there is no need to for me to into detail on the fraternal line of william of the bevis carpenter? was going to post those but will wait as i think we have done enough for tonight unless your head hungers for more knowledge...

Private
10/8/2012 at 5:44 PM

i was also going to attempt to dig into the maternal lines at some point tommrow

Private
10/8/2012 at 5:56 PM

Erica Howton let me know about what i have complied over the last 3 hours of the fathers side of William "of the Bevis" Carpenter and if this is the place for it i will post it here and the maternal side tommrow after i look at jim's long response.. thanks

Private
10/8/2012 at 6:14 PM

Private User? your input?

Private User
10/8/2012 at 7:44 PM

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Private User
10/9/2012 at 4:47 PM

Carol Marie Fitzgerald - Suburb information (and TONS of it!) Echoing Erica Howton's comments, do you have sources for it, at least some of it?
James Hutchison - Thanks for posting that up, you beat me to the punch.

All - I've tried to be extremely meticulous on these profiles a few months back and added sources to Gene Zubrinsky's Carpenter Sketches where appropriate. I've noticed that the URL for his sketches has changed since I've done that work, and I need to figure out how to update those links enmasse. I'd love to help out on this area, but won't have too much time for the next few days. If you have pending questions, post'em up and let's get crackin!

Joe

10/10/2012 at 3:45 AM

For all...the URL for the Carpenter Sketches done by Gene Zubrinsky is at:

http://carpentercousins.com/carplink.htm

Erica is correct in that we must post each block of his work to the appropriate Rehobeth Carpenter profiles (and there is a lot of info here) in order to capture the essence of each individual and the family line!

I believe that the existing GENI line is pretty accurate right now. I do not believe that we will be able to solve the documented source for William's (1) wife without extensive records research of court, municipal and church documents in the appropriate Shires in England, so I guess Alice will have to do for now.

As far as Mary Batt (or Bath) is concerned, I believe that further research can solve this issue.....FYI: There are a number of Batt's on the1630's passenger lists to New England (including a Christopher Batt (Batte) that may provide some clues. I will continue to look! Right now, it is my belief that she married the William Batt who dissented and went to Holland..but that needs verification!

Jim

10/10/2012 at 6:38 AM

Erica - As a further note, I wanted to check on William (1) parentage and found the following (which tracks exactly with the GENI Rehobeth Carpenter tree):

Notes on Robert Carpenter (Father of William (1):

Robert was awell-to-do sheep proprietor.

WILL: His 1607 will lists his wife, who was his cousin Eleanor Carpenter,
their children (William, Richard, John, Charles, Robert, Edith, and Alice.
A grandson named William and a brother named Richard.
He bequeathed money [to] Salibury Cathedral (Old Sarum), which is added evidence for his descent from Vicar Richard Carpenter who had served as Vicar General to the Bishop of Salisbury. He also bequeathed certain lands to his oldest son William and grandson William as well as to his son Richard Carpenter.

This Will, copy now at the Carpenter Museum in Rehoboth, MA, is the only one ever found in England that agrees with all the proven facts about the American Carpenter Family. The success in proving this lineage after 300 years of failure was achieved through the superlative work of English genealogist Harry F. Rogers of Abington, England.

Source: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/e/r/Dana-K-Berry/WEBSI...

This, unfortunately, conflicts with the genealogy line that Carol Fitzgerald outlined earlier (above).

Additionally, concerning William(1) death; both Gene Zubrinsky (see footnote, pg 195, American Genealogist, dated Oct 1995, The Family of William Carpenter of Rehobeth, including English Origins) and Miss Annie L. Carpenter (The American Historical Society, pg 11, dated 1936), William (1) "died during the voyage (Bevis 1638) or shortly thereafter", which explains why there is no record of his death or any record thereafter ....given the times, he was probably buried at sea....and it would be interesting to see if there are any records by the Captain of the Bevis...for surely, he would have recorded the death of a passenger and subsequent burial at sea if it occurred!

To further complicate things, marriage dates and children seem to indicate two marriages. First one about 1598? Second in 1605. Yet another record indicates that a William Carpenter married Mary Batt in 1595 at Old Salisbury Parish. The 1605 date was probably for Alice who was buried in Shalbourne. So the mystery on Mary Batt continues.

FYI: Marden and Cheriton Parishes, Wherwell in Wiltshire were Puritan strongholds. Rev. Stephen Bachiler and Richard Dummer (who was on the Bevis in 1638) were actively engaged in persuading religious dissenters to join them in New England with their Plough Company. This includes William Carpenter.

I have contacted the Carpenter Museum in Rehobeth ( 508 252-3031) to see if we can get a copy of Richard's Will and to see if they have anything on William (1) death and wive(s). Will let you know since they are only open on Sunday's from 2-4! I am also in the process of downloading the PDF file containg Gene's research to William (1) profile..takes time!

As another point of research, there is a John Carpenter profile attached to an "unknown spouse of William (1). I cannot find any documentation supporting this John Carlenter (1601-1645), who theoretically immigrated from England and settled in Farmington, Hartford, CT...do you have any data to support this profile!

Jim

1/28/2016 at 1:34 PM

Esther Rowe Irish there is a lot of good info on this discussion.

I'm wondering if we can settle on a single question:

CURRENTLY thought to be the likely parents of William Carpenter of the Bevis, died 1638?

(anyone else - input also welcome, be aware I am looking for how the Carpenter Family Association describes the tree)

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