Colonel Ninian Beall - Time to prune Col. Ninian Bealls family

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7/5/2021 at 10:02 AM

Unless someone can show otherwise, I’d like to conform his family according to this list.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beall-75#Proven_Children_of_Ninian_Be...

Proven Children of Ninian Beall and his wife Ruth

Assuming that Ninian Beall had no wife or children prior to Ruth, and that he married her about 1669, his children would have been born between their marriage about 1669, when Ruth was, say, aged 17, and 1692, when Ruth turned 40.

The proven children of Ninian are those named in his deeds of gift, and his will. (Plus Hannah, indicated by property records). Some writers assert that Ruth might not be the mother of all his children, but no other mother has been realistically suggested. Proposed additional children often appear in popular genealogies but have generally been disproven and are listed in Research Notes. All birth years are estimates.

1. John Beall, 1669-1711. Named as son in 1707 deed of gift. Never married, no children.

2. Ninian Beall, Jr, 1669-1710. Named as son in 1707 deed of gift. Named in 1717 Will. Married Elizabeth Magruder, 2 children.

3. Charles Beall, 1673-1740. Named as son in 1707 deed of gift. Named in 1717 Will. Married Mary Wolstead and Mary Price.

4. Jane Beall, 1678-1745. Married Archibald Edmonston. Husband named in 1707 deed of gift. 9 or more children.

5. Rachel Beall, born 1679 Named as daughter in 1707 deed of gift. No record of husband or children.

6. Thomas Beall. 1682-1708. Named as son in 1707 deed of gift. Never married, no children.

7. Hannah Beall. 1687-1735. Possibly disinherited; claimed marriage 1702, actual marriage 1707 to John Deaver. Relationship established through property. Not named in 1707 deed of gift, Not named in Will. 8 children.

8. Hester/Esther Beall born 1687. Named as daughter in 1707 deed of gift. Married Joseph Belt. Children.

9. Mary Beall, born, say, 1690. Married Andrew Hamilton, then Thomas Evans. Named as daughter in 1707 deed of gift. 6 children.

10. Col George Beall, born 1695. Named as son in 1707 deed of gift. Named in 1717 Will. Married Elizabeth Brooke and Barbara Dent. Children.

7/5/2021 at 10:07 AM

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Was Ninian Married first to Elizabeth Gordon in Scotland?

Assuming the birth year estimate of 1625, Ninian Beall would have been 21 in 1646. The earliest estimate of his arrival in Maryland is 1652. This gives a period of roughly 6 years in which he could have married and had a family in Scotland. But did he?

Alice Norris Parran[41]) states that Ninian Beall married first in Scotland, wife's name unknown, and of Ninian's children, four (Thomas, John, Sarah, and James) were born in Scotland.

Elizabeth Heterick,[42] an otherwise reliable and detailed scholar, cites a Waters family book containing original papers by Edith Waters Beatty naming Ninian's Scottish wife as Elizabeth Gordon and claiming Thomas was born before coming to the colonies. Heterick cites Thomas's will: Whereas it doth please God by his Providence to cause me to leave the place and land of my nativity and intending God willing to leave for England" as evidence; however a more logical reading is that the place of nativity is Maryland, which he was leaving on the trip to England.

Another writer, J. Ninian Beall,[43] asserted, however, that two of the above children, Thomas and John, were born of the immigrant Ninian's marriage in Calvert County.

Nettie Leitch Major[2] stated, "It has been reported that he had married prior to coming to America to Elizabeth Gordon, but this has not been proved."

No actual documentation has been found to support Ninian's marriage in Scotland, in 1646 or at any other time, to a woman named Elizabeth Gordon or to any other woman while in Scotland.

In addition there is no documentation of any of the supposed children of Ninian and Elizabeth either having a continuing life in Scotland or immigrating to Virginia or Maryland.

Fielder M. M. Beall said, "Fiction writers have made the following two statements: That Ninian Beall married Elizabeth Gordon in Scotland, where she had two sons, John and Thomas; she died in Scotland. That Ninian Beall had two daughters in Maryland named Sarah and Margery. These two inventions are of their imagination, as they offer no proof of accuracy."[13]

Nevertheless, reports of an Elizabeth Gordon continue to surface. A page posted to Ancestry.com from Ancestor Lineages of Members Texas Society/ National Society Colonial Dames Seventeenth Century reports that Beall, Ninina Col/Capt, b. 1625...married 1 before 1647, Scotland, Elizabeth Gordon, d. 1648, Scotland; m 2. ca 1667, MD, Ruth Moore, b. 1652, St. Mary's Co, MD, d. 1707, Prince George's Co, MD." The entry further identifies the one son of Elizabeth and Ninian as John, Sr, b. ca 1647, died England. [44] Regrettably, the only sourcing provided in this material is membership applications to the society.

7/5/2021 at 10:08 AM

Was Ninian the son of James Beall and Ann Marie Calvert?

Popular genealogies often suggest that Ninian was the son of James Beall, who was supposedly born in Scotland 1603 and died in Scotland 1646. No basis has been found for this connection and Ninian has been delinked from this father.

Find A Grave has asserted, without sources, that Ninian was the son of James Beall. (1603 – 1646) and Anne Marie Calvert (1603 – ____)"[39] No documented facts have been found to confirm Ninian as the son of Anne Marie Calvert. No facts confirm Ninian as the sibling of any other children of James Beall and Anne Marie Calvert, if they existed. Mackenzie's book circulates such reports, but without sources: "Col. Ninian Beall had three brothers who settled in the Province of Maryland; namely, Thomas, John and George. Their descendants are numerous." [5]

Was Ninian Born at Largo in Fifeshire?

Mackenzie gives the year of birth as 1625 and the place as Largo, Fifeshire, Scotland.[5]

No facts can be proved about Ninian Beall's place or date of birth or his parental family. Ninian Beall is said, by an internet source using LDS ancestral files, to have been born at or near Largo, Ligensheim Fyffe (Fifeshire), Scotland, possibly the son of James Beall, Ph.D., born about 1600. No primary source documentation has been found for any of this. No other reliable facts — parents, siblings, spouses, places, or dates — are available about Ninian Beall's origins in Scotland.

The names given to Ninian's property in Maryland strongly suggest a fondness for places in Fifeshire and Stirlingshire, which suggests these as possible places of origin.

Noted genealogist Roberta Hull writes, "It has been assumed that he was born in 1625 to Dr. James Bell in Fifeshire, Scotland, but apparently no one has been able to find any proof." [40]

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So disconnecting Dr. James Beall & Anne Marie Beall as parents & Elizabeth Beall as wife.

7/5/2021 at 10:26 AM

Dan Cornett how do we feel about continuing to show Richard Moore, Barrister, of St. Mary’s & Jane Godson as parents of Ruth Beall

As I read it, it’s unproven but not ruled out.

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-345541
Name and Parents

We know that Ninian Beall married a woman named Ruth. No credible documentation has been found regarding her birth place or parents. (See Research Notes.)

Please do not add information to this profile from sources such as ancestry.com, geni.com, or other sources which do not provide credible documentation. These are not considered appropriate sources for pre-1700 profiles.

1650 Birth and Parentage

Ruth is known only as the wife of Ninian Beall. No details have yet become available regarding her birth year, her birth name, or her parents.

Based on a statement of Ninian's in 1669 that he is now a married man, if she were aged 17 at the time her birth year would be 1652.

1669 Marriage to Ruth Unknown

Ninian Beall's land transaction on 20 Sep 1668 must have been one of his last as a bachelor, for in 1669 he stated, "I am a married man." [1]

His known wife was named Ruth. [2]

1706 Land Sale

7/5/2021 at 11:45 AM

Did Ninian Beall have Additional Children?

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beall-75#Did_Ninian_Beall_have_Additi...

Numerous children have been assigned to Ninian Beall in error or attributed to an earlier marriage. All of these profiles, most of which were once linked to Ninian as his child, have now been de-linked and, where possible, assigned to their correct family.

  1. Mary. While Ninian had a real daughter Mary, popular genealogies confuse various Mary's with her -- Mary Waylett, born 1635; Mary Bell born 1640; Mary Mills who married John Pottenger, and Mary Mullikins. Another Mary Beall-364, was born in Largo in 1646, and died in Prince George's County 1720, without spouse or children. See The Mystery of Sarah Magruder and Mary Pottenger.
  2. Jane or Margaret: Jane Margaret Beall, born Scotland 1647 and said to have married Joseph Isaac and died Calvert County 1696. Previously shown on WikiTree as child of Ninian Beall and Elizabeth Gordon.
  3. Alexander. Alexander Beall was shown as a son of Ninian, born in Maryland 1649 and died in Largo, Prince George's County. Alexander Beall is an immigrant in his own right; he may be a kinsman of Ninian, but is not his son.
  4. Sarah married Samuel Magruder. The best evidence now is that she was born Mills. Thorough discussion at The Mystery of Sarah Magruder and Mary Pottenger.
  5. Margery Beall said to have been born in Montgomery County in 1685 and died in Anne Arundel County 6/26/1765. Also said to have married Joseph Belt. Margery Beall is likely a conflation of Joseph Belt's two real wives, Hester Beall and Margery Wight.
  6. Robert Beall, b. 1713, unknown, d. 1788, Montgomery Co. no spouse, no children.
  7. Rachel Beall, b. Prince George's County 1679, d. abt 1740. Do not confuse with a different Rachel who married in Dorchester 4 Apr 1698 Richard Owen, then one other husband. Some genealogies, without verification, give Ninian Beall a daughter Rachel, born 1662, who in 1698 in Dorchester County married Richard Owings.
  8. Tabitha Beall, b. c. 1673 is also said by some to be a daughter of Ninian.
7/5/2021 at 11:54 AM

Disambiguation

Two or more Rachels are often confused but should not be! See also Research Notes below.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Beall-1623

  • Rachel ferch Robert, born Wales 1662, married Richard Owings in Wales, around 1683. Immigrated with Owings first to Pennsylvania then to Anne Arundel County, Maryland, then to Baltimore County, Maryland.
  • Rachel Beall, daughter of Ninian Beall, born Calvert County, Maryland, say, 1679. Rachel Beall was still single in 1706; may not have ever married anyone.
  • A Rachel Beale married a Richard Owings on 4 April 1698 in Dorchester County, Maryland. [1] This does not appear to be Rachel Beall, daughter of Ninian, who was still single in 1706, and it does not appear to be Richard Owings, husband of Rachel Roberts, who was already married long before this.
  • Rachel Beall whose name at birth is really unknown, married James Offutt by about 1725. Her year of birth has been estimated variously anywhere between 1693 and 1704. Rachel was dead by about 1742 when Offutt married his second wife
7/5/2021 at 2:12 PM

This person is not part of my genetic tree.
However Ninian Beall is

“ In 1692 Ninian Beall was appointed High Sheriff of Calvert County. The year following he is designated colonel. It is apparent that he was a great and efficient leader in the provincial army. In 1697 we find him one of the board of commissioners to treat with the Indians. Like our later military genius, General Washington, Colonel Ninian Beall was a surveyor, filling the office of Deputy Surveyor of Charles County in the year 1684, and later, during which time he continued his military services against the Indians. A fact not unworthy of notice is the intermarriage of a descendant of our Maryland "Argyll" and of the brother of the illustrious George. An act passed by the Assembly in the year 1699 reads: "An act of gratitude to Colonel Ninian Beall." This unusual recognition of service to his government is a high tribute to his efficient and untiring loyalty. The act in part refers to Colonel Beall's "valuable services upon all incentives and disturbances of neighboring Indians, and though now grown very aged and less able to perform, yet continues his resolution even beyond his ability to do like service at this juncture of affairs, etc. Therefore, be it enacted by the King's most excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of this present General Assembly and the authority of the same, etc., that 75 pounds sterling be applied to the purchase of three serviceable negroes in recognition of Colonel Beall's services, etc."

I am genetically related to Ninian of
Anne Arundel Co., Maryland
Francis Warman estate appraisal
26.481 AA £341.6.3 Feb 16 1741, Mar 30 1741.

7/5/2021 at 4:59 PM

Question is has anyone ever researched in Barbados on him ??? I went searched for surname etc and it is present I was told to look northward in Barbados’s as most prisoners came through there. And I also found a Richard Hall in charge making laws there. So maybe that Richard Hall has connections to the Richard Hall in Maryland. So I researching all over if I find stuff will send you all.

Billie

7/5/2021 at 5:01 PM

Thanks, Billie June.

7/5/2021 at 5:05 PM

Erica,
All I found was poster but it was neat. I haven’t given up but it will take time.

Billie

7/5/2021 at 5:09 PM

Erica,

Here that poster I found. Not saying it Richard Hall But funny he got Ninan indenture and I find this. Love to know how this guy connects to Richard Hall of mount welcome or if it is him.

https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000...

Billie

7/5/2021 at 6:06 PM

Oh wow a Archeological dig with maps and story about Col. Ninan Beall got to see this. Page 23-24 the story. It has lands he purchased so cool. Oh and they backing all up with Archeological Evidence. Here good references lol.

http://npshistory.com/publications/rocr/aie-v1.pdf

Billie

7/5/2021 at 9:06 PM

“ The first British settler west of Rock Creek and the owner in 1710 of much of the future park was Ninian Beall, a Scottish prisoner of war who was sent to Barbados as an indentured servant but rose to become one of Maryland’s wealthiest planters and most prominent politicians. ”

Good find!

7/6/2021 at 5:52 AM

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7/6/2021 at 7:14 AM

Diana Collins - that’s a “claimed historic profile.” I’ll report to Geni.

7/6/2021 at 8:08 AM

You'll report what?... me?

7/6/2021 at 8:17 AM

Profiles that pretend to be an historic person in the Geni tree. It needs reported.
I reported one a while back that claimed to be the spouse of someone who died in the 1800's.

2/28/2022 at 8:46 PM

Col. Ninian Beall was born Ringing Bell, the son of James Bell and Helen Ringaud of St. Andrews. The Ringaud Name at St. Andrews was also recorded as Ringand and the most common variant in the surrounding area was " Ringing'. The birth records of St. Andrews and St. Leonards do not predate 1627 so the birth record of Ringing Bell has not survived but the birth record of his brother, Thomas Bell ( better known as Thomas Beall of ' Loving Acquaintance") was recorded in 1631 by his parents James Bell and Helen Ringaud ( also Ringand, Ringin, and Ringing). Thomas not only came to Prince George's County Court in 1732 and claimed he was over 100 years old but he is also the same Thomas Bell who arrived in Maryland in 1680 and made his unique mark on a deed selling his headright, the exact same unique mark Thomas Beall of " Loving Acquaintance" always made on his deeds. That Col. Ninian Beall was born "Ringing Bell' is simply proven by a land deed at Prince George's County to his nephew Charles Boteler wherein he made his mark as " RB". There is overwhelming evidence that shows Col. Ninian Beall married Ruth, the daughter of Charles Boteler, Deputy Surveyor of Calvert County in the year 1670. Ninian's eldest son Charles Beall was born in 1671.

3/20/2022 at 7:08 PM

Also there is no record of Ninian Beall claiming he was a married man in 1669.

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