

I was just alerted to new birth records for James McDonald..
What evidence that Ellen McDonald married this James McDonald (who died at 33 and is definitely not baptised with a Roderick in his name)?
Her daughter, Jane Elizabeth Mulvina Kirlew 's profile says Ellen was married to a James Roderick. Erica Howton - you seem to have been working here finding the DN of Jane?
Have we found documentation to sort this out yet?
I don’t know anything more than what I copied in the profile - what had been posted at Jane Elizabeth Mulvina Kirlew
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:LBLC-ZNB
That’s as much as I can say.
Will, stop being ridiculous with the ludicrous legal threats and the silly insinuations that I ever had your records. We live on different continents, for heaven's sakes - I could never have had your records to lose - the couple that there were.
Indeed, I invested months creating your tree for you from the one or two documents that you uploaded - as you well know. My project to find and add records to all the Jamaican McDonalds was created for you! I'm generating info, not removing it.
https://www.geni.com/projects/Mac-McDonalds-in-Jamaica/4498659.
Myself and other Curators removing bad merges (you were knowingly doing) that you were using to claim descent from the main McDonald clan line, is the definition of our job on Geni - not a campaign against you.
As to Ellen - I'm patently not removing her - Look at the date of the original post - where I'm trying to figure out what to do with the Roderick name that you said your Dad had given you. This is years ago.
I was just prompted by a record match for a James in my inbox today, to try and search for records in case they'd suddenly become available. This is simply my logging of that, in the ongoing search to upload the Jamaican records.
I'm trying to find records for her and her James Roderick. The match today was on a Joseph McDonald whose birthdate this actually was: Joseph Andrew McDonald
Somerled and DNA have nothing at all to do with this post. Why are you spamming again?
'Continually posting about your money and capacity to make legal threats comes across as braggadocious and attempting to bully. This is a genealogy site, not a blog for you to lecture on.
The post here was on Ellen's James Roderick Mcdonald, nothing else. I'm assuming that you're not prepared to use some of the money you're always trying to sue people with to get the basic records on which your entire argument rests into place. One starts to wonder why exactly not.
Dr. Wilton McDonald II - Attorney & Barrister you have no right to threaten legal action against Geni users who are following proper genealogical practices. The family tree on Geni is a shared, collaborative work dependent upon evidence consistent with the Genealogical Proof Standard. If you cannot meet that standard, then the unsubstantiated data and connections on public profiles may be removed.
Mike I have been singled out and I will put to you that I have been the ONLY person whose tree has been deliberately disconnected and why?? I have provided over 80 DNA matches with my Sleat Macdonald line. The Clan Donald Bible vol 3 pages 500 to 517 make clear that this Sleat line has "meager" genealogical data and records. My paid researchers are working hard- provided 1 ancient early 1600s map of Jamaica which LIT UP and confirmed all the places of significance on my Macdonald side in Jamaica . I have 1 BIG Y cousin who is Herbert Charles Mcdonald and haplo E. His line is Kingsburgh Scotland and connects/ intersects with James Macdonald Sleat b 1515 also in Kingsburgh Scotland. I have provided more information than more than 90 percent of your client base and i will swear to that fact as well.
The tables and guns are turned against me for reasons unknown. The standard required is beyond anything which any member is asked to bear.
I am doing the research and it is costing tens of thousands of dollars. You will be the very first person to obtain the results of all of this massive undertaking.
Further point- Geni now owned by My Heritage and this is my main site - with 4 years of research, 13 trees including my main tree of 426.000 persons and combined tree of 630.000, with 3 million records and data sources, over 30 DNA kits managed, over 30.000 DNA matches tied to combined trees i can say that NO PERSON HAS DONE THE AMOUNT OF WORK I HAVE DONE. NO ONE !!!! And Geni is owned by My Heritage. The sites are connected and there is sharing of data - can tell with blue logo of Geni appearing each time i sign on to My Heritage.
Again no person has done this level of work yet i am singled out as a black Hebrew and victimized with my paternal line cut off by Geni. Why?
Mike I have been singled out and I will put to you that I have been the ONLY person whose tree has been deliberately disconnected and why?? I have provided over 80 DNA matches with my Sleat Macdonald line.
You have not been singled out at all, but have received a great deal of help building and documenting your tree. You are perfectly aware that there is nothing connecting this man who may be on your family tree: James Macdonald (who is incidentally classified 'White' and married to a 'Quadroon' Jane Wells in Jamaica)
to this man on the main Clan line: James MacDonald who died unmarried in Jamaica.
The fact that you actually knowingly used this spurious connection to accuse the entire MacDonald line of being a fake because it didn't share your DNA does not create proof in the real world, and smacks of disengenuity in a man of your oft repeated qualifaction status.
Your 80?? DNA matches also disprove rather than prove your Y chromosone connection to this well studied line.
I will not be commenting on any responses that do not address the topic of this Discussion.
The Clan Donald Bible Vol 3 pages 500 to 517 make it clear that the Sleat line has great genealogical data and records Wilton. Unfortunately for your desire to be connected to the Clan Donald Chiefly Lines, none of them match with your direct paternal line. Furthermore, you have not produced any documentation that connections your paternal line to the James McDonald who died unmarried in Jamaica on page 517 of Clan Donald Volume 3.
The PEERAAGE does have a lot of information on the Sleat Line, as the Sleat Branch has a current Chief, and the current Lord MacDonald is of the Sleat Line. This said Wilton, you either don’t know what you are talking about, or you are going out of your way to misrepresent the truth/lie.
I don’t know who you are DOCTOR Wilton, nor who you are to get upset from my posting your “evidence”. Here it is again, please click the link and have a look. The picture certainly DOES NOT match your description of the individual in question.
Wliton, you originally wrote above:
"Darryl Lundy from the PEERAGE wrote to me many years ago and said the PEERAGE has no informaiton on the Sleat Macdonald line.”
Which is much different from what you most recently stated which is:
"This is the line I am connected to and this is what Darryl Lundy at the Peerage was talking about - and they have no information on that Sleat line.”
Further, you only WISH to be related to that you paternally descend from James McDonald who died unmarried in Jamaica on page 517 of Clan Donald Volume 3.” nor does your Y DNA match with the current MacDonald Chiefly lines (which includes the Sleat Branch) who have very well documented and proven genealogies with complete documentation.
Wilton, in your above statement you displayed clearly that you are lying....how can anyone take you seriously. Speaking of God, since you brought him up Wilton, you have broken
several of his Commandments....probably best if you left God out of this conversion.
Everything you have wrote Wilton, (I assume) is a poor attempt to redirect comments away from your incompetency in genealogical research (to be clear I think I am being kind and leaving at that).
Furthermore Wilton,
Here is the IFFY that you are refferrinng to I assume:
There is only one "high level" question left for R1a. We've not really started for R1b.
For the R1a Norse/Somerled line the remaining question is the resolution of the DNA lines for the Keppoch/Dunnyveg and the Glens/original R1a Antrim chiefs. The paper lines, iffy though they most certainly are, agree that Dunnyveg matches Antrim as the paper claims. The DNA of the BigYs, even iffier, requires that Keppoch and Dunnyveg/Antrim descend from the same son of John 1st Lord of the Isles. This contradicts the historical paper trails. I consider that the most likely problem is that the Keppoch paper across the sea is wrong ... but that's just a feeling based on statistics of the number of "in common with" autosomal matches.
On a different subject, please note that if you are looking at McDonald/McDougall/McAllister for confirmation that Somerled really was the Y-chromosome ancestor of John, 1st Lord of the Isles, you should also consider the case of McEachern, which on historical paper (or oral tradition!) comes from a close Y-ancestor of Somerled.
What is seldom discussed is that its actually probable that at least a few tests of medieval DNA will turn up that address this, eventually.
Doug McDonald Clan Donald DNA Project Admin
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Wilton, were you referencing this quote by the Clan Donald Admin, or was there another statement from him you were talking about?
Peter,
This looks like Doug the admin is saying the paper trails of one specific MacDonald group and a separate group in Ireland show that they descend from the same source, but a DNA test is showing that they descend from the same son of John 1st, which was unexpected. In other words he's saying that the DNA is contradicting the historical record, but it is still showing the two groups descend from the same source more or less.
This doesn't sound like the admin is saying there is a problem with the main MacDonald or Somerled research at all.
Jaquarius, that's exactly the point!!! Wilton is intentionally misinterpreting this statement to fit his narrative even though Doug wrote this to say that this minor point was the ONLY question raised by the R1A-Somerled research. Doug has never questioned the validity of the Clan Donald Project when it comes to identifying who Somerled was, and who his descendants are.
The research conducted to identify Somerled and his descendants was independent research that reached a conclusion based on overwhelming DNA evidence involving thousands of tests done on people with the surnamed MacDonald, MacDougall, and others that are historically connected with Somerled. Those tested include the sitting chiefs of those lines, who happen to match each another despite being separated by about 1,000 years. Meanwhile, it sounds like Wilton is conducting research with cherrypicked "experts" who have been given the objective of finding evidence that supports his wild claims. Meanwhile, he doesn't even have a paper trail that connects him with the Sleat MacDonalds that he desperately clings to.
KEY DOCUMENTS TELL OF CLAN DONALD STORIES- LABELED AS FABLES AND FRAUD !! JUST COME OUT AND ADMIT- MACDONALD- SON OF DONALD/ OF DUBH- AKA SON OF A BLACK MAN. BLACK HEBREWS LIVED IN SCOTLAND OVER 1000 YEARS AGO AND THE PICTS DURING/ AFTER BLACK ROMAN PERIOD- PICTS WERE BLACK PEOPLE. HOUSE OF CARDS FALLING AWAY.
https://clandonald-heritage.com/.../who-was-the-ancient.../
Ancient HighlanD Documents
MacPherson said he compiled the Poems of Ossian from oral legends and manuscripts gathered throughout the Scottish Highlands. This was during the enforcement of the British Act of Proscription that made virtually everything of Highland culture illegal and punishable by “transportation”. Transportation was a “politically correct” government term for physically being taken from your home and banished from your homeland to one of the British colonies. Copies of MacPherson’s work inspired world leaders such as Napoleon Bonaparte, Thomas Jefferson, Sir Walter Scott, and composer Felix Mendelsohn, but most British authorities condemned it as a fraud.
Wilton, your incorrect statement:
"KEY DOCUMENTS TELL OF CLAN DONALD STORIES- LABELED AS FABLES AND FRAUD !! JUST COME OUT AND ADMIT- MACDONALD- SON OF DONALD/ OF DUBH- AKA SON OF A BLACK MAN. BLACK HEBREWS LIVED IN SCOTLAND OVER 1000 YEARS AGO AND THE PICTS DURING/ AFTER BLACK ROMAN PERIOD- PICTS WERE BLACK PEOPLE. HOUSE OF CARDS FALLING AWAY.”
Is not part of the link to Clan Donald Heritage, which you posted below it. Are you hoping people will somehow connect your first incorrect paragraph with that link????
Wilton, also from the Clan Donald Herittage site you posted above, it says the following:
"Dhomhnaill is most commonly rendered Donald, but there are other spellings. Macdonald or McDonald have both come to mean “son of Donald”.”
https://clandonald-heritage.com/donald/
And, strictly speaking, "Mac" evolved circa the 11th century from meaning literally "son of" to more generally "descendant of". This can easily be traced by noting how, when and where "mic meic" (son of the son of) became replaced by straight-up "Mac".
(The Irish had a similar problem, but chose a different answer - their version of "descendant of" became "Ui" and then "O' ".)
RE:
Further on same pages 500 to 517 they contain a photo of a very dark black Alan Macdonald of kingsburgh Scotland b 1720 who is the ancestor of my big Y white cousin Herbert Charles McDonald d. 1953 and the kingsburgh line intersects with Sleat line at James 1515 Macdonald. A simple child can see the connection but with your bitterness towards me you cannot see.
I cannot see it because it isn't there, Will.