The Unbroken Chain

Good to see you here on Geni Neil.

Welcome. I have been working on expanding and adding details to the Margolis family tree.

How wonderful to see you on Geni. Bruchim Habaim! It was your book "The Broken chain" which gave me the geneology bug and helped make the family "legend" that my husbands family were descended from the Katzenellenbogens a reality! What information would you like for the Kirsch/Kestenbaum line?

Hi Neil, excellent news, I look forward to updating the Bombach and Teomim Fraenkel line to your astounding work.

Maybe we can add some of the branch tops to the project page to make this project into an index for the sections of the book on Geni.

I have ordered the second edition, Dr. Rosenstein, through inter library loan, so once I receive the volumes and read through the info that pertains to my family, I will let you know what I have and if it relates. Thank you so much for the work you have done and continue to do. Dan Teitelbaum, Raleigh, NC (Researching: Teitelbaum, Levine (Lev), Hurwitz (Horowitz), Schneiderman, Goldman)

@Randy, branch tops? I think we can add all public profiles mentioned in the book to the project and also add exact references to each profile!

Private User Welcome Dr. Rosenstein, it is such privilege and pleasure to see you on Geni---your books and scholarly research are an invaluable resource to the world of Jewish Genealogy. I am personally indebted to you, as it was your initial call to my parents seeking information for the first edition of "The Unbroken Chain" that triggered my interest in this enthralling field, and for that I cannot thank you enough.

Thanks for your kind words and comments.
Does that mean you will be willing to help with updated family info to be included in the next edition?
Best wishes
Neil
reply to neil@tali.com
maybe send me your personal email.

Private User Definitely will be delighted to send updated information for your upcoming surname indexed 3 volume Edition! This is so exciting for all of us.

I am very happy to see you on Geni, Dr Rosenstein !
Also glad to know about your projects.

Best wishes

Neil, long time no talk! I saw your project on Geni. I would be happy to contribute my part of the family. I think I already gave you some a long time ago after the first edition, but I don't remember what.

And I tell you, if you (or anyone!) have any information on Arye Lieb's wife Mindel, it will make my decade. Finding out who her parents were would most likely complete my chain, because her brother is my ancestor.

I have added to the project page entry points for each of the chapters in the book. Feel free to add Branches as subchapters.

Randy, it would be helpful if you could add one sample Branch as a guide to the formatting.

I tried with Volume 11, Chapter 1X, Rappoport and Cohen families
Oppenheim and Ungar families of Bonn, indenting the branch, but was concerned about the double spacing. The entry has been deleted pending your example.

Have a look at the additions made since my post above.

It would be nice to indent the Branches (if existing) or family names without incurring double spacing. Waiting for your comment prior to completing.

Pam Karp

I figured out how to indent. Double-asterisk is the key **

Thank you Randy Schoenberg.

The second question is to indent (great) without an asterisk, and still maintain single line spacing. Can you figure that out too?

I have referred to Bjorn's Wikitext Unicode document but am stymied how to achieve all my criteria.

Have you tried > or >> Pam? You do have to have these exactly at the start of a line for them to be effective, so have to have a return at the end of the last sentence. See if that works for you!

Thank you Private User. I will try it.

June, > and >> works fine for the indent.

However, the indented line is then a double space below the heading. I would prefer the single spacing to be maintained.

Question for Neil or any of you: I come from the Gerstein/Heller line. Where is that in the current Unbroken chain projects? I don't see it listed in the headings on the Geni page for Unbroken Chain 2nd edition.

Also, where are you adding these family lines with indents and asterisks? Do you not use GEDCOM files and genealogy software?

Most of the book is already on Geni, although there are significant gaps. Gerstein should be under Chapter II.D. I'll add them in as II.E since it is a big family. The hyperlinks on the project page will take you to a profile and if you then "view tree" you will be taken to that portion of the big tree that pertains to the particular branch headed by that profile.

I have a lot of people under Zahar Hirsch Waldman and Freda Gerstein. I thought I sent that off to Neil years ago but either I didn't or it didn't make it for some reason. They were my GG Grandparents. I have lots of decendants in the Waldman family also. Do you want them? On my grandmother's other side I'm related to Arye Lieb and Mindel Gerstein, through Mindel, I was told. Also there's a lot in the first Unbroken Chain that isn't in the Gerstein Tree here on Geni.

Mike, can you work on adding the rest of the Gerstein chapter. I realize it is huge, but maybe you can make some headway. Thanks, Randy

Malka Mysels Maybe you can help with the Visanska branch? I don't have the book with me here, but the Visanska family has descendants on Geni and are distantly related to me. I'm not sure what is missing here, but assume we will need to add more.

Aaron Visanska

Hatte Anne Blejer What is missing on Geni is Aaron's son's wife's family connection, ie. the "Maggid family" descendants of R. Phineas Katzenellenbogen " The Holy", who was named after his great grandfather, R. Phineas HaLevi Horowitz. (Unbroken Chain p.22-24)

Also missing is the "Rosenberg family". ie. Aaron's son mentioned above, Hirsch Mordecai HaLevi Vizanski, changed his name to Marks Rosenberg--you have this fact noted on his profile, but Sema his wife, her Maggid family and the Rosenberg children are missing.

Do you want me to add them to your tree, should we wait?

Go ahead and add them to my tree. I don't know why Marks Rosenberg's family is missing.

I wish I know why he changed his name. Interestingly there is a Rosenberg family that married the Margolis family and then married the Visanska family in South Carolina where they all immigrated :)

I connected Daniel. Now need the rest of page 23-34.

Margolis family needs to be added to Chap 2. Going up from Efrati family, the father of Ittel Margolis mother of Efrati and Itelson families was the daughter of Mordechai Margolis. I don't have the book here but it's the page before Efrati etc. Mordechai Samuel and then another Mordechai. That second Mordechai is my 4th ggf and his family was the subject of a separate book The Margolis Family 1984 referred to in the Unbroken Chain.