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Croatia = Croaton?? (North Carolina in the 1500s)

Started by Erica Howton on Thursday, September 2, 2021
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Erica Howton C
9/2/2021 at 2:14 AM

Interesting article suggesting some more ethnicities for the Lumbee tribe.

DNA Evidence of a Croatian and Sephardic JewishSettlement on the North Carolina Coast Datingfrom the Mid to Late 1500s, International Social Science Review: Vol. 95 : Iss. 2 , Article 2., authors Mrs. Elizabeth C. Hirschman, Mr. James A. Vance, Mr. Jesse D. Harris

https://digitalcommons.northgeorgia.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article...
Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava C
9/2/2021 at 3:13 AM

Erica, I already added a link of this article at project pages, below:

Randy Schoenberg, maybe also can be added at: https://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Genealogy-Portal-A-Guide-to-Jewish-Projects-and-Resources-on-Geni/13121, what You think?

Private User, maybe we can add also at project: https://www.geni.com/projects/Genetsko-porijeklo-Hrvata-Haplogroups-of-Croatians/8816, what You think?

Erica, someone of US Curators can also add at USA portal. maybe You, Randy Schoenberg, Kevin Lawrence Hanit, Private User, Ric Dickinson, Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert, Alex Moes in other related USA project pages, where you think a this article will be a useful for all geni users. I think maybe at Colonial America project https://www.geni.com/projects/Colonial-Americas-Portal/10718, if maybe didn't added.
Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava C
9/2/2021 at 4:12 AM

Erica Howton, maybe can be also added at: https://www.geni.com/projects/U-S-A-Indigenous-peoples-Portal/9720 or projects of Tribes in USA: https://www.geni.com/project/search?q=Tribes or https://www.geni.com/projects/Where-are-The-Ten-Lost-Tribes-of-Israel/3474 Malka Mysels

Randy Stebbing maybe also at: https://www.geni.com/projects/DNA-Geni-Index/42313 or somewhere else, what You think?
Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava C
9/2/2021 at 4:50 AM

FYI: At published article a correct link of source is http://www.christopher-columbus.eu/ships-crew.htm, not how was mentioned as www.christopher-columbus.eu/ships-crew, at p.2

Also a link of firstcolonyfoundation.org/history/the-roanoke-colonies at p. 3 correct is: https://www.firstcolonyfoundation.org/history/the-roanoke-colonies/

Private User
9/2/2021 at 9:06 AM

Interesting. Minor nitpick: Cabot was Venetian, not Spanish or Portuguese. "Zuan" is what Venetian dialect made of the commoner "Gian" or "Giovanni". His father was said to have come from Genoa, and further deponent sayeth not.
Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava C
9/2/2021 at 10:03 AM

Private User, yes, Zuanne or (shortly Zan, Zane, or Zuane) is a Venetian form of the name Giovanni, Gio, but mostly for Gian or Giam how I saw it was used and mentioned as GiamBattista or Giovanni Battista what means at croatian Ivan Krstitelj, at latin Joannes Baptista.

In some records a name was also written shortly as Gio: or Gio. Maybe further deponent was sayeth not, maybe for some unknown reason or maybe was something happened, such as political reason. Can you pls share where that written, as information, and possible in records or any other sources, if they are maybe available online, where is that mentioned, what you said above. Thanks.
Erica Howton C
9/2/2021 at 11:07 AM

Article is specific to the Lumbee people of mixed ethnicity, not to native Americans, and the point is an (overlooked) contribution to the peopling of the Americas.
Erica Howton C
9/2/2021 at 11:10 AM

This is beautiful work, Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava

https://www.geni.com/projects/Croatoan-Indians-Trace-of-the-legend-of-Croatians-in-North-Carolina-USA/50175

Private User
9/2/2021 at 5:13 PM

It's one of those "common knowledge" things (if you have Italian ancestry) that "John Cabot" was previously known as Giovanni Caboto. That he acquired the variant "Zuan" in Venice was unknown to me until I found it in (don't laugh) Wikipedia.

The reason for Englishing his name was that he had moved to England, was working with English merchants and sailors (particularly in Bristol), and wangled a commission to explore from the English king (Henry VII, who was notoriously stingy - including in Cabot's case).
Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava C
9/2/2021 at 5:37 PM

Private User this a great information, shows why a his italian (veneto) original name was later in english, a reason it is clear. Why you think we will laugh at your replies, we are here mostly for seriously, yes we can make a jokes and etc.. but that is for other kind of fun. Thanks for inform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cabot, was born in Gaeta, and already added at geni: John Cabot Alex was added and Kevin Lawrence Hanit curated a his profile.

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