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Previously these discussion topics was only available to my extended family group, but now we have this new Public Discussion functionality.
My extended family group discussion have been used by the most active Geni users for collaboration and helping each others with merge problems. Most major contributors to Geni are active there and share access via me since I am probably the one in Geni with most family and collaborator group members.
If you have merges issues you are missing permissions to complete you can post them here.
When your issues is resolved please delete your related messages to keep this topic as short as possible.
You should as far as possible connect the pending merges yourselves and you are also responsible to clean up the final profile when completed.
Please verify that all profiles in a connected stack is matching the main profile before you post a request to merge the stack.
Remember to mark a completed merge of common ancestors as Shared if you have access to it, - both to keep it visible for none-family members, but also to tell others that you have verified the contents and would like to keep it as a main profile in this giant forest.
If you see padlocked profiles in the tree: Click on [View List] under the profile picture on a nearby profile you have access to. The managers of these will be listed there and you can take proper action to get them unlocked for you, either by becoming the manager yourselves if it is without a manager, or contacting the manager to collaborate or ask him/her to kill zombies.
When I find a zombie I usually write the manager the following:
"This profile is a zombie please edit and mark deceased"
A Zombie is a dead profile that is marked alive and can be for example 1000 years old. Some gedcom-files uploaded to geni without death-dates becomes automatically alive and are as alive profiles not vissible to "anyone" , nor mergable and blocking trees and merges.
If you get a message you have a zombie - kill it =) and please check that persons family list for more zombies.
@Tim - they do, and mark them specific in the tree, but 99% of the zombie profiles does not have a birth date either so it is impossible to detect them all in a simple way.
The major reason for those zombies is that people have built their family trees using a PC program that does not give you an option to mark a person as deceased unless you set a date.
Erik, you can be pro-active and go on a zombie hunt! Here's how:
1) Go to your profile (or anybody you have Permission to access/edit their profiles).
2) In the Overview tab, Press the [Profiles Managed] link in the Family Statistics box (on the right). This will open a list of all the profiles that you (or they) manage.
3) If you do NOT see the yellow box on the side of the list, press the [show advanced controls] link next to the list title.
4) In the Filters section,
where it says 'Any claimed status', select the 'Unclaimed' option.
where it says 'Any living status', select the 'Living' option.
5) In the columns section, Select a column for living status.
6) Press the [Update List] button. You now have a list of all of your profiles that are marked as living, and haven't been claimed by an actual person.
7) Go to the LAST page of this list.
8) Press the Edit Profiles tab at the top.
9) Go through the page of profiles, and in the [living status] column change to deceased wherever relevant.
10) Press the [Save all changes] button at the bottom.
11) Go to the previous page.
12) Return to step #8. Repeat as needed.
This is actually much easier than the long description would make it look. I just wanted the explanation to be clear as possible.
The reason to start from the LAST page, is that if you start at the beginning, then every time to go to the next page, the list is recalculated, and you will miss pages, because it's going to the next page of the NEW list. This is avoided when going back in the list.
@ erik to kill a zombie, is to mark a long deceased person as deceased. someone born in 1600 you can be pretty sure the have passed, but when gedcoms were uploaded, not all people got marked as deceased that should have. this will create a problem for anyone trying to merge them, for collaborators cannot merge living people ( no matter how much we love them) ^U^
laura John Jackson
http://www.geni.com/profile/compare/6000000002908308275 is done
Shouldn't we try to find out which managers are not responding and find out who we have connection to and who not.
As I see it we need to make a reaction especially on the last group of which we can't do any thing at all!!
I find it very frustration that we are making all this work, and a few people are abel to sabotate it totally.
John O'Hern, Nancy Sands, Jamie Bearse
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@Noah, - in my private merge issues topics we have separate merge issues topics on the most problematic managers, but I thought we should avoid hanging them out in the public even if I already have done that for one specific person in the forum.
Should I open a specific public SDH merge issues topic?
The amount of email's you get from public discussions is an "error" in Geni an they have promised to change it to only send notifications on topics you have participated in.
If you ask me, being a software developer my selves, it is just a result of bad planning and consequence analysis of a new feature, - it is time for them to include some external beta-testers like me before they release new features.
Nancy Sands and Frederick Sieber zombie
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