Randolph Lawson

DAR Ancestor # A024520

Randolph Lawson was born in the fall or winter of 1752 or 1757 in Cumberland County / Bladen County, North Carolina. His family migrated from Virginia to North Carolina about 1751. He died March 1848 in Albany, Clinton County, Kentucky. Findagrave has 1843 for his death date.

His birth date is 1752 and in Bladen or Anson Co. NC. Cumberland Co. was not a Co until 1754. later lived in KY (Cumberland & Clinton Co).

• from http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/n/Jc-Jones/WEBSITE-0...: "He was born in the Fall or Winter of 1752 in Cumberland Co., NC. Randall lived to the age of one hundred and five years, was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and was a non-commissioned officer. He was in all the principal battles, with seven years service. He died in KY and had been a farmer all of his life."
• In documents filed in Fentress County, Tennessee, 21 May 1840, in support of Ann Lawson, his brother John’s wife, he stated he was two years younger than his brother who was born about 1755.  This would make his birth date 1757.  It is not unusual for people of this period to inflate their age for a number of reasons, one that they just did not know how old they were. (http://lawsondna.org/Media/NC-Counties/Cumberland.html)

Family

Parents: Proposed:

• William "White-Eye" Lawson & Mary (or Elizabeth)
• Robert
• David Lawson
• Bartholomew "Bart" Lawson & Susanna Lawson
• His brother was John Lawson

A line of descent ("Falling River Lawsons") Lawson DNA Project

Married on 13 Jun 1791 to Susannah Cross. They were the first couple to be married in the newly formed Patrick County, Virginia. Jacob Lawson was the Bondsman.

Children

• Elizabeth (Lawson) Phillips
• Katie (Lawson) Chambers
• Elisha Lawson
• Mary Louise (Lawson) Prewitt
• Randolph Lawson
• Thomas Lawson
• Nancy Lawson
• Suzanna Lawson and
• Clarissa Lawson

Family notes

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lawson-90

Dear All I will start will Randolph Lawson (b. abt 1755?) in Va married Susannah Cross b. 15 Apr 1765 in Charles Parish, York, Virginia.

I have Randolph Lawson's parents as Bartholommew/Bart/Barclay Lawson & Susannah Simkins. Have Randolph Lawson's grandfather listed as William Lawson & Isabell Kenny.

Elisha Lawson b.1753/1764 in Lunenburg county, Va. died 1834 in Stokes county, North Carolina .1st married ( 21 June 1801 Patrick, Va) Mary Lawson having son Ambrose Lawson who married Mary Ann "Polly" Sisk.(may have been more children) Ambrose & Mary Ann had son John Lawson & Richard Lawson. (may have been more children)( check e-mail message from Carol Lambert) Elisha Lawson 2nd married Nancy Willerd on 4 May 1836 in Patrick co, Va. I have other children listed from Barclay Lawson & Susannah Simkins, including my line Moreman Lawson. My information has been pieced together from several sources & needs a great deal of research. Will exchange & update with anyone. Thank you Caroll from the Falling River Lawson's. Have found many Lawson's in the Hancock county, Tenn census (was Hawkin's Co. Tenn)

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From https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/surnames.lawson/6674.5.1/mb.ashx

Posted: 10 May 2013 10:57AM
Classification: Death Surnames: Lawson, etc Naming Baththolomew as the father of Randolph Lawson is VERY questionable. In sworn affidafits, both Randolph and his known brother John claimed that they each Joined the Army to replace his Father. Since Bartholomew Died in 1765, it was prior to the start of the Rev War, and if the affidavits are accurate, it rules him out as their father. Check pension applications of John and Randolph.

AND, Elisha,,son of Randolph was married only one time,, to Rachel Phillips (might be Phelps). The Elisha who married Nancy Counts is from an different Lawson Line.

From http://www.winslett.org/g0/p288.htm#i8611

Although considerable unsourced material has been collected about the ancestors of Randolph Lawson, the data still needs to be verified with more specific research.

One researcher without documentation stated Randolph Lawson's name was Jacob Randolph Lawson. With the exception of Thomas and Clarissa who were thoroughly researched in census records, his other children were found in unsourced information; of note no one source had all the same children, so some may have died young and been forgotten and others of "his children" may belong to different families. His daughter Elizabeth Millie Lawson born in 1815 in Paint Rock Creek, Campbell Co, TN is more likely his granddaughter because he had an adult surviving daughter by the same name born in 1795 or the two women were possibly the same person. Furthermore, proposed progeny born in North Carolina after Clarissa was born in Tennessee, such as Madison Lawson, were not included with his children because in Randolph's many recounts of where he lived Randolph never indicated he returned to North Carolina after his marriage.

NewFalling River Lawson Line Question

carlllawson (View posts) Posted: 11 May 2013 08:16AM Classification: Query This may be a clue to who Randolph's father was? John Lawson, Randolph's brother, had the information below in his pension application. It indicates he was a substitute for a David Lawson who may have been his John and Randolph's father and the son of Bartholomew. There was a David Lawson in Cumberland County, NC after Bartholomew died there in 1765: -

The following information is from John Lawson’s application for a pension, filed 16 April 1833 in Morgan County, Tennessee: That he was born in Bedford County, Virginia and was 78 years old when giving information. (Born about 1755-56 if information is correct.) Lived in Cumberland County, North Carolina but could not remember the dates because of his age and loss of memory.

While living in Cumberland County he enter the service, in the fall or early part of winter, as a substitute (as a private) for David Lawson.

His officers were Capt. Charles Gholston, Lt. Smith, Col. Buttus and General Linelton at Elizabeth Town, march from Elizabeth Town to Willmington, was at Willmington for two months, then marched to Columbia, stayed about 15 days, then marched to Raft Swamps for a battle there and then marched to Guilford and station there until the battle fought by General Nathanael Greene and Lord Cornwallis (the battle at Guilford Court House took place 15 March 1781). Then marched to Keillsboro for that battle, then to Crofs Creek where he was station for about 2 months. Marched to Elizabeth Town and then after Cornwallis’ surrender at Yorktown (19 October 1781) he was march to Salem where he was discharged after serving 11 months.

Discharge papers where consumed by fire in his father’s house which burnt.

American Revolutionary War Service

He was a private who served in the revolutionary war under Capt. Gholston, he was in all the principal battles then he was called for the duty of guarding baggage for Capt. Gholston. He served for 7 years. DAR Ancestor # A024520

Events

• Drewry Lawson 1801 Hawkins County, TN Drewry, Hampton, Randolph, Thomas and Nathan Lawson are listed in the 1801 Hawkins County, Tennessee Tax List.
• 1818 TN Campbell Co TN, Early TN taxpayers
• Census:1830 Campbell Co TN, Census Index: 1840 Clinton Co KY, page 335
• U.S. House of Representative Private Claims, Vol. 2: RANDOLPH LAWSON, Claim: Pension for revolutionary services; 1st. session of the 28th. congress; page 567 (fn1)
• American Revolutionary War Rejected Pensions: Clinton, KY; Not six months' service.

Military

DAR Ancestor #: A024520
Service: NORTH CAROLINA Rank: PRIVATE Birth: 1752 BLADEN CO NORTH CAROLINA Death: (POST) 1843 CUMBERLAND CO KENTUCKY Service Source: R6205V Service Description: 1) CAPTS GHOLSTON, COX, DUCK

Footnotes

1. from: Lawson Family History - St. Francois County, Missouri

Esther, It has been determined (DNA analysis) that we are NOT descended from William Lawson (William the rebel), born in Scotland 1730, but are descended from the "Falling River Lawsons" of Virginia. At this date, we are unable to pinpoint the parents of Randolph, born 1752. Myrna Culpen Hurlbert and I have been in contact regarding the parents of Randolph, and she is on a project of process of illumination. Myrna THINKS that the parents of Randolph were either Robert or a David Lawson,. but has not traveled to Virginia to research. Darryl Lawson

"October 2, 1802 - Big Springs Baptist Church Minutes - "The report f ro m Rob Camp and thought not proper that Randolph Lawson's name should be made record til he cleared himself of a charge against him."

"December 2, 1802 - Released Randolph Lawson from the charges lodged against him."

"Section 18 - Lawson, Randolph, Page 16

-Pension No. R6205 - North Carolina

-State of Illinois, Johnson Co., April 28, 1835. Personally appear ed in open court, age 82, *states that he was born in Cumberland Co., NC in the fall or winter of 1752. He entered in the service as a volunteer under Capt. Coke? Cox? for 3 months, sometimes in Jul 1780. They rendervoued at Cross Creek in said County where they were organized under Co. Nowles, The Knowles. They then marched toward Camden, near which place they met Gen. Gates by whom they were then commanded and soon after we re engaged with Lord Rawdon in the Battle of Camden, sometime in Aug 1780. This applicant was not actually engaged in the battle being detached as a guard of the baggage in which the Americans scattered and appeared by the conduct of the Militia. They did not get together to effect any thing again during this term of 3 months. He did not receive any discharge fr om this tour of 3 months and there was nothing more of any interest or impossible during this tour of servie. He again entered service as a volunteer for a tour

SECTION 19

of six months sometime in Jan. or Feb. 1780 under Capt. Duck? He things under the same Col. He does not recollect where they rendezvoued but when organized, they marched on toward Guilford Court House where they Met Gen. Green, who commanded them and where they had an engagement with Lord Cornwallis and were again defeated. This applicant was not again actual ly engaged being young was again on detached duty as a guard of the baggage. After the battle, General Green marched on toward Camden, where he attached Lord Rawdon, sometime in April, but this applicant under the command of this same field officers and he things commanded by General Lee was sent on a different expediton, in which, however, he had no engagement, that he recollects, nor does he recollect for anything further being done or transpiring of interest during this term of six months.

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He was discharged however, 2 weeks before the expiration of this tour of six months, having served 5 months and 2 weeks, making in all eight months and 2 weeks. He received a written discharge from this last tour of six months which was authorized by his getting his house burned. He lived at the same place the 2nd time he entered the servie; states that he moved from Cumberland Co., NC to Patric Co., VA; thence to Montgomery Co., VA, thence to Campbell Co., TN; thence to Johnson Co., IL, where he now lives. There are no toher circumstances which are of any note or will be useful in the investigation of his claim. He has no evidence of his services and knows of no one who can testify to same. His acquaintances are Hardin Prewitt, Daniel Hewit, Wm. Jeffers, M. Munson, John Oliver, Jacob Dooly.

-State of Tennessee, Fentress Co., June 27, 1838, personally appeared the above named soldier, states that he moved from Montgomery Co., VA to E. Tennessee, Hawkins Co., then his house was burned and all papers destroyed; thenence to Campbell Co., TN, stayed there for 20 years, left there in the fall of 1832. Two men had been talking to him about securing a pension, but having sold out and was preparing the move to Illinois, with his children he knew anything of the matter and had no chance to stay and attend to the business, he decided to move on have his business attended to where he settled. Accordingly, moved to Johnson Co., IL, and there became sickly and having no old acquaintance nor no chance of proving service and after having lived there sometime and concluded to move back and accordingly started back, but on his way concluded to settled in Clinton Co., KY, immediately on the Fentress Co. line in TN, about 60 miles from Campbell on the settlement where he started from and from his extreme old age and bodily infirmity is unable to attend court or attend to business from home and having no acquaintance in Fentress C o., it is most convenient to have his business transacted in Fentress Co., TN.

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-Affidavit of Peter Reagan, Clergyman, John Bridgewater, and Arthur Flogers, residents of Fentress and believe him to be age 84, and it has never doubted that he served in the Revoluntionary Way. (This affidavit ed dated 1838).

-Application in Fentress Co., TN, May 18, 1842, personally appeared Randolph Lawson, a resident citizen now of Clinton Co., KY, age 90, said that he volunteered under Capt. Gholston, as he yet believes his name to be, he thinks it was in June 1780, for 3 months under Capt. Gholston, or Gordin, is not positive as to the name, but knows the Capt. under which applicant's father served one tour in the same war, was Gordin but his captain 's name was Gholston. He then lived in Cumberland Co., NC and was attached to army command by Gen. Gates.

-Said he removed to Wilks Co., NC; thence Henry Co., VA; thence to Campbell Co., TN; thence Westwardly; thence back to Clinton Co., KY; whe re he now lives.

-Affidavit John Parmley, a resident citizen of Wayne Co., KY; states that he was personally acquainted with the soldier in the state of NC an d knows that he was a private soldier in the Revoluntionary War at the time fo the Gates defeat but was not retained in service at th at time, the length of the time for which he was engaged, afterwards, he was a volunteer private in the other tours one of which was under Capt. Gholston, attached to Gen. Green's army, for 3 months and in scouting acomapny for about 3 months.

-Affidavit of Thomas Phillips, resident of Campbell Co., TN, who states that he and the soldier were both residents of Cumberland Co., NC and well recollects that in the year 1780, and knows that he now lives in the southedge of KY and volunteered under Capt. Cox, and was in the R evolution and hence it was sometime before Gates's defeat and that shortly after the defeat he returned home and knows that in the later part o f the season of the fore part of 1781, he again went into service under Capt. Gholston in Col. Alston's regiment and was (line missed in duplica tion) army and was back at Camden or scouting expeditions for sometime and then returned home to Cumberland Co., NC - affiant being now age 75 and not far from the age of Applicant. Affiant has been acquainted w ith the Lawson family for many years, from his first recollection, having married an own cousin to the applicant for pension, Randolph Lawson. Si ned - Thomas Phillip.

-Affidavit, Willis Cole, a Revolutionary War pensioner, who states, he was personally acquainted with Randolph Lawson, who is now of KY when t he said Lawson resided in NC and knows he was in the Revolutionary War, sometime under Gen. Gates. Then in 1781, served under Capt. Golston, attached to Gen. Green's army and was engaged for 3 months in actual service of his affiant's certain knowledge. Although he did not belong to said company and again in the Summer of 1781, was again in service. Afterwards ** believes he served 3 different campaigns, the 2 last was under Gen. Green and affiant believes and has no doubt that in the 2 c ampaigns that Randolph Lawson served full six months in the Revolutionary War, called out by the Capt. Authority that an emboided corp and in his a cquaintance with Lawson after the war, he frequently heard Lawson state t hat he served 3 tours of 3 months each, but has not seen him for may years, until lately. This affidavit was made in Fentress Co., TN. Affidavie of John Parmley, an old Revolutionary War soldier in support of cl aim of Randolph Lawson made in TN."

Discussion

MRS ROBIN Y GILLIAM
To: LAWSON-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199707041745.NAA67026@mime2.prodigy.com> Subject: Lucretia LAWSON, Campbell Co., TN 1830

I am looking for any information about the family of Lucretia LAWSON, born in the 1790's. She married Blackburn THOMPSON in June of 1809, and died Mar 16, 1880. According to her 1812 Widow's pension application, people attending her wedding included: Randolph LAWSON, Susan LAWSON, Merilley PHILLIPS, May PREWITT, Elisha LAWSON, James ENGLISH, and John and Sarah JEFFRIES. Were Randolph and Susan her parents? Who were her siblings?

-Robin

Links

• Randolph Lawson Society, Children of the American Revolution
• http://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_adb/?action=full...
• https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mary-tuc...
• https://rlscar.wordpress.com
• Deep Down Genealogy
• http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lesliesc&... Randolph Lawson served in the Revolutionary War under Capts Gholston, Cox and Duck, according to the DAR. His pension application was rejected because he could not show that he had served for the required 6 months. He may be buried in Johnson County, Illinois, as he is listed in "Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Illinois" by Mrs. Harriet J. Walker, originally published in 1917.'
  • Leigh Johnston "the Paper Trail of Elmore Lawson Pruett and Holtkamp Swens on families"
• https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/154265999/randolph-lawson
• http://www.winslett.org/g0/p288.htm#i8611