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Looking for Johann Martin Hoch and a son Johan Rudolph Leberecht Hoch
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Balázs Déri :
Some Hoch familiies' ancestors might have been members of Hoh tribe ,related to Chemakum in the Pacific Coast of America .
It seems not unlikely that, Chemakum ( Che-Man-Kum ) could be related to some of Komanche , called Padouka too ,now of Nahuatl language ,in which case they may be descended from
A-Pat-Dawa-Ha from the royal family of Hierosolyma ,one of the founders of the Seven Caves of the Toltecs ,likely identifyable with Aribaios ( Waribawi ) ,king of Kappadokia in the days of Kyros of Persia .
Kumarchen tribe on the other side of te Ocean might also be related to Chemakum ( Chen-Mar-Kum ) ,as well as some early chiefs of Manche-Komi peoples at Ural .
See Pueblo,Delmato,Mexicano,Teltsch,Góral,Kom,Koman,Kuman,Mandzsu,Arkansas,California, México,Cole,Yokohama,Seszták and others !
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