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Scheiber family of likely Idumaian,that is of Kozear origin may descend from one of the sons of Sheybah ,titled also Aabed al-Muttalib,son of Hashem from the dynasty of Arabia founded by Al-Qays-Nader that is by Alexander about 333 years "b.c." ,what corresponds about to 213 of Persians counting from Dareios' reign,at his visit in Arabia
and in Abyssinaia on the occasion of the world tour realised by him and by his followers .
It seems very likely that Sheybah was named of his uncle called Muttalib ( Mutter-Lieb , what is equivalent to Philométór ) after the death of the latter,and was named so not because he raised him up ,but because he was at least nominally his son . This name occured in the dynasty of Ptolemaioses ,and the son of Kleopatra was also called so .
Hashem in the comparison of genealogies seems to be identical with Héródés of Idumaia, of Arab origin,and the three brothers of the previous with the three siblings of the latter, among whom Ióséphos may be the one Arabs called Muttalib- maybe based on some family tradition from the early ages of the people of the Scripture . He was namely the one who had a son called also Ióséph,according to the source his own one, but more likely by his brother marrying his widow .
There may still exist a chance Ióséph's wife was Kleopatra or another member of her family . This would also give some explanation to the suspicion based on the christianized,that is romanized traditions of Bagrationi family claiming descendance from Kleophás brother of Ióséphos,that Kleophás in fact was an alternative hellenic name of Ióséph ,both for husband and for son of Kleopatra . But there is no straight report like this .
Sheybah deceased about 578 according to Persians that would correspond to about 32 of straight counting and to 1381 of italians .
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