

The purpose of this project is to establish simple and meaningful standards to location names in Québec, Canada, names that can be used consistently within profiles.
The scope starts with the discovery of Canada by Jacques Quartier in 1534 and continues today. (Map of Canada circa 1543)
The territory covered by the name "Québec" has had gigantic fluctuations. The key milestones:
This section presents rules that can apply to most locations in most contexts. When deciding the correct name for a location, first apply these general rules followed by special rules defined in the sections below.
province
and country
should contain "Québec" and "Canada" respectively.
country
could be set to "Bas-Canada" between 1791 and 1841. However, culturally, this distinctions brings little insight. The literature of the time clearly show that contemporary people identified themselves with "Québec, Canada" and therefore it is appropriate to use those values with all places and time.place
field and the name of the parish already contains the name of the city, do not include the city component of the name in the parish name. For example, place
="Notre-Dame-de-Québec" and city
="Québec": the parish name can be shortened to "Notre-Dame".county
field for events before 1855, leave blank. See "1845―Stillbirth of Counties" below.province
field: Let's agree to enter the full name "Québec". The reason: Geni has a global audience and not everybody knows that "QC" stands for Québec.country
field: Let's agree to enter the full name "Canada". The reason: Geni applies ISO 3166-1 to convert codes into country names. By relying on Geni in that way, our data becomes vulnerable to changes with ISO. Every decade or so, ISO publishes new standards. This is too short of a timeframe. Remember, we want our genealogy data to remain meaningful for centuries. Therefore, let's explicitly enter "Canada" and therefore, we don't have to worry about it ever again.country
field can be used when normally it would be left empty for situations when helping to differentiate between two cities of same name.Throughout this section, we provide tips for Geni users about naming of locations in Québec. The tips are also collected here for easy access.
county
fields should remain blank. county
field. county
field.county
field and the arrondissement name into the city
field.county
field, like the region.Here is the fun part: You can add profiles to the projects with the municipalities/locations associated with that profile. For example, the profile of Stanislas Morel was added to the Saint-Henri-de-Taillon project since he was born and buried there.
By adding profiles to municipality projects, we will be able to rebuild communities through time. This information will become invaluable for Geni users interested in demographics.
Geni TIP #5: Add profiles to associated municipality projects.
In Geni, locations are captured in profiles for five main events: birth, baptism, marriage, death, and burial. Geni offers five fields: place
, city
, county
, province
, country
. In total, a profile contains 25 location data fields. This represents a significant amount of readily accessible information about a profile; when taking together the location data from an entire family or a communality, locations can reveal some of the most insightful stories. Truly, to enable researchers harvest those stories, special care must be given with each profile to find accurate and meaningful location data.
But what
constitutes "meaningful" location data?
From a religious point of view, all locations would correspond to the parish and diocese where the event took place. For example a birth in 1900 at the "Petite-Rivière" would be in "Saint-François-Xavier, Petite-Rivière, Chicoutimi, Québec, Canada". Note that the diocese "Chicoutimi" would take precedence over the county "Charlevoix". Is the distinction meaningful for Geni? For some users, perhaps; for others, maybe not.
From a history point of view, this would mean location data should report the precise names associated with a place at a precise time and in accordance with the rules of toponymy. Take the different forms of "Baie-Saint-Paul": "Baie St. Paul" (1845), "Baie Saint-Paul" (1964), and "Baie-Saint-Paul" (1969). Are these distinctions in name meaningful for Geni? For some users, perhaps; for others, maybe not.
From a geography point of view, location names would reflect the physical areas where an event took place. For example, take Roberval in 1923 Roberval when it was in the county of "Lac-St-Jean", while, in 1956, Roberval was in the county of "Roberval". For a profile of someone who was born in Roberval in 1923 and died there in 1956, would it be meaningful for Geni to know that he was born in "Roberval, Lac-St-Jean" but died in "Roberval, Roberval"? For some users, perhaps; for others, maybe not.
From a political point of view, location names would follow closely electoral districts. For an event, we would have to determine precisely where it occurred on the electoral map. In Québec, the first electoral map was created in 1792 (it had 27 districts then) and it was amended in 1829 (32 districts), 1830 (32 districts but many different names), 1832 (33 districts), and 1838 (46 districts). Since then, in average Québec gets a new electoral map each two elections. Is Geni the right forum to capture electoral intricacies? For some users, perhaps; for others, maybe not.
This brings us to our proposal: We propose the adoption of standard location names based on a combination of all points of view by selecting the combination that brings the most culturally rich meaning for Geni. Let's call it the "Anthropoly Perspective".
Simply said, one core aspect of anthropology is understanding the cultural context of humans, past and present. Geni gives us the means to explore the culture of communities via its family ties. In practical terms, this calls for flexibility in how we use the fields place
, city
, county
, province
and country
. We may use "Québec" for province
even before the Province de Québec was formally established (in 1763). Or apply "Isle d'Orléans" in county
even though Isle-d'Orléans has never formally been a county name. As a parish name, we might use "Saint-François-Xavier" in place
instead of the formal "Saint-François-Xavier-de-la-Petite-Rivière", knowing that the city name is Petite-Rivière and therefore avoiding redundant data.
To succeed in implementing standard naming for all locations in Québec for all time periods, we, Geni users and amateur genealogists, must collaborate. We can use this project as our forum for discussion and exchange of ideas, and reach consensus on how to name each locality.
If we succeed, the benefits will be considerable. We will have consistent place names between members of families throughout generations. We will be able to better identify communities where different families were living together. Consistent names will give us more chances to infer missing data in a profile, to be better able to determine new family relationships based on where people were living and when. And in the coming years, using Geni APIs, we will be able to create new web applications that can rebuild entire community maps and even observe dynamic changes in demographic regions.
Thinking about meaningful location names is more than just quantitative research, it is creating a map to space and time that brings alive the lives of our ancestors. We hope you will join us in this journey.
1845 saw the enactment of "Adoption de l'Acte pour abroger certaines ordonnances et pour faire de meilleures dispositions pour l'établissement d'autorités locales et municipales dans le Bas-Canada", the first attempt in Québec to create, organize and give powers to municipalities. Parishes are incorporated; representatives are given seats. But this attempt has been given a short life.
In 1847, this law was replaced by another, imposed by William Badgley, that divided the Québec map into 46 county municipalities with regional government for all the smaller localities they contain. There were no local goverments.
If applied literally to Geni, with this concept, the "city" field of locations would always remain blank. For a smaller municipality like L'Ange-Gardien We would have: place
="L'Ange-Gardien", city
=[blank], county
="Québec", province
="Québec", and country
="Canada".
This experiment failed miserably. Everybody hated it. It was superseded in 1855 by yet another law.
Between 1847 and 1854, counties are a mess and mostly meaningless. Before 1847, counties were based on the electoral districts, which have changed over four times since 1792 and were also mostly meaningless for the population of the time.
Geni TIP #1: There really is no point in using county names before 1855; county
fields should remain blank.
With The Seigniorial Act of 1854 by the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Canada, the seigniorial system was over. It will take decades for all seigneuries to disappear, still, for the purpose of Geni, from 1855 and on, seigneuries are history.
Exception: The Seigneurie de Beaupré still remains today.
Now, finally, Québec is ready for implementing an actual municipal structure on its territory.
The new law, Acte des municipalités et des chemins du Bas-Canada, was a success. Local municipalities were re-established as pre-1847 with their local governments. In addition, true regional governments at county level were also created and given authority over inter-municipal matters like roads.
Geni TIP #2: For events between 1855 and 1981, insert the county name into the county
field.
Those counties were superseded in 1982 by a new law on urbanism.
Québec replaced its historical counties with 87 Regional County Municipalities, or RCM (Municipalité régionale de comté, or MRC). The new RCMs allow a redistribution of powers more in line with contemporary politics.
Geni TIP #3: For events since 1982, insert the name of the RCM into the county
field.
In addition, there are 8 municipalities not belonging to an RCM. These larger cities are divided into arrondissements.
Geni TIP #4: For municipalities not belonging to an RCM, insert the municipality name into the county
field and the arrondissement name into the city
field.
{2002 was another big phase of changes. To be documented here.}
county
field.from 1855 to today.county
field from 1982 to today.county
field.from 1855 to 1981.Click on the municipality link and look for Indiquez les lieux dans Geni // How to Input Locations in Geni.
Légende ~ Legend
Pour les seigneuries, voir Les Seigneuries du Québec
Saint-A
Saint-B
Saint-C
Saint-D
Saint-E
Saint-F
Saint-G
Saint-H
Saint-I
Saint-J
Saint-L
Saint-M
Saint-N
Saint-O:
Saint-P
Saint-R
Saint-S
Saint-T
Saint-U
Saint-V
Avez-vous des ancêtres qui viennent de ces endroits ? Pour le savoir, c'est facile, consultez History Search à HistoryLink
Do you have ancestors from this location? It's easy to find out, see History Search at HistoryLink.
Vous avez une question? ~ You Have a Question? Contact : morel
___________________________________
Work Area